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[–] [email protected] 48 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (5 children)

Why is competition for US auto makers a bad thing ?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Because we don't like free markets. We like the illusion of choice, but the security of monopoly.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago (2 children)

This isn't competition, it sounds like the CCP heavily subsidises the manufacture, in an attempt to kill the American industry off.

Thinking in decades or centuries is a very powerful tool!

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago (2 children)

This isn’t competition, it sounds like the CCP heavily subsidises the manufacture

China: "Here, have a bunch of cheap electric vehicles to replace your aging fleet of ICE engines. Don't worry, we're picking up a part of the tab."

Americans: "What a great deal! We'll buy them in droves."

State Government: "Not so fast! This wouldn't be fair to honest, hard working domestic car companies like Tesla and Volvo and Toyota."

Thinking in decades or centuries is a very powerful tool!

Shame we're only capable of thinking about the next quarter's profits.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The US subsidizes their EV industry twice as much as China. The real why China can do this is because the US has gutted their industrial base in favor of financialization while China built up their industrial base.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, sure - that's still China trying to undercut and ensure the US remains reliant on them long term...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No that's just the US not being competitive because stock buy backs and layoffs are easier than building good cheap cars.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

...or both. Think about it, if what you've said is completely true (I don't disagree, BTW), why would they bother subsidising?

They're trying to ring fence the market. That the US is helping then is only vaguely related

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

But it's not both. How can you produce something for cheaper with less subsidies unless your just better at it.

It's like saying the winner of a race had an unfair advantage even after giving their opponent a head start.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Because the US is an authoritarian pseudo democracy being run by cartels. And free market and capitalism is a death sentence for them.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

On top of the other things people are saying, I guarantee that the U.S. automakers will do a "China will take your jobs" thing if this happens.