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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (5 children)

"These 35,000 borrowers approved for forgiveness today are public service workers - teachers, law enforcement officials, and first responders who have dedicated their lives to strengthening their communities and because of the fixes we made to Public Service Loan Program Forgiveness, they will now have more breathing room to support themselves and their families," President Joe Biden said in a White House statement.

Justice Delayed is Justice Denied

What about the rest of the US? Biden made sure again to take care of police first.

[–] [email protected] 97 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What do you mean first? Isn't this like the fifth round of student loan forgiveness?

[–] [email protected] 85 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And SCOTUS stopped him from forgiving everyone.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (5 children)

then why keep showing the have nots what they'll never have

everyone wonders why there is a group of voters in the US who disagrees with both parties well this is it

the people forgotten by both parties always lose especially during elections

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

everyone wonders why there is a group of voters in the US who disagrees with both parties well this is it

No, we just wonder why that group hasn't learned yet that voting third party or not voting only reduces how many voters the major parties need to win over to stay in power. Running candidates and voting in the major parties primaries is the only way to change the political landscape until we can get election reform to make 3rd party options viable. And we won't get election reform without taking over the parties from within and from the bottom up (dirty, county, and state offices) because getting ranked choice is done at the state level, not the federal level (without a constitutional amendment).

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

Yes, but they "voted their conscience" so that's fine. I always think they might as well just save the time and energy and stay home and not vote if they feel that way.

Also, as W. C. Fields once said, "I never vote for, only against." That sure is true in 2024. I'm voting against every Republican on the ballot by voting for Democrats. I'll worry about reforming the Democrats when I can be sure that my queer friends and family aren't in danger of genocide.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“Can’t help everyone so let’s just help no one instead!”

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago

"Fuck you, I didn't get mine", a new twist on an old classic.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

bOtH sIdEs

All I know is that the Democrats and Biden are trying to push school debt forgiveness to larger groups, and it’s the GOP who consistently blocks it. I didn’t see any GOP pushback for welfare.. err PPP “loans” to businesses though

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They’ve been whacking away a smaller groups since the SCOTUS decision. There’s been announcements of those groups over the last couple of years and (by their account) still working on a big one that adheres to the SCOTUS ruling in the case that should not have been, from Texas.

I get emails from the DoE every once in a while that gives updates as well. My wife benefited from one of the rounds, while I (with a much higher balance) have not. If I benefit, it will be a huge lift off my back, but if not I’m not about to deride those who were able to be freed from the debt.

This reminds me of a couple of posts where someone was complaining about how fast food workers were starting to make almost as much as them. One take was to be happy more people are getting paid better, and the other was that someone needs to talk to their management on getting some raises.

I’d hazard for the second one we (the public) need to get people voted in with the objective of being more socially minded rather than those trying to shit on “others”. The MTGs and Gaetzs’ of the political world are not interested in helping others, we need more AOCs and Bernies.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

reminds me of a couple of posts where someone was complaining about how fast food workers were starting to make almost as much as them.

which reminds me of the people whining about illegal immigrants "dur toork our jerrrrbsss!!!!!" without a single word about the 1% business owners who consistently hire those immigrants and literally give them a reason to come to the country

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Why can't you be happy for someone getting some help just because it isn't you?

[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Guess who is delaying and denying the loan forgiveness programs Biden had for everyone?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

These shitheels are perfectly fine with the handouts given through Pedo Trump’s PPP loan scam though.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I didn't get my pony, so fuck them!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Conservative logic detected.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is the Biden administration making the program do what its supposed to. If that's cause for celebration, somethings wrong

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

We can be happy for the people this helps. Isn't that enough? Does everything have to be viewed through a "the universe hates us all" lens?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

teachers, law enforcement officials, and first responders who have dedicated their lives to strengthening their communities

One of these things is not like the others, one of these things does the exact opposite of "strengthening their communities"..

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

First responders also includes firefighters and paramedics.

Don't let your broad-brush hatred of cops blind you to things of value.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

teachers, law enforcement officials, and first responders who have dedicated their lives to strengthening their communities

Don’t let your boot licking reflexes blind you to what is actually being said

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

LEO include jobs like prosecutors, parks rangers, wildlife officers, USPSIS personnel, and a lot more. This isn't your average precinct cop -- they generally don't have student debt to forgive anyway.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Interactions like the one you two are having are why I think we’re going to lose in November

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Is it the nominee that's wrong?

No it must be the voters.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How many cops you think are going to college?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's irrelevant, I'm not the one who made the list.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So, what? If you’re a cop you shouldn’t be allowed to have student loan forgiveness but all other first responders do? Public workers are public workers dude. They’re first responders whether we like it or not.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah I'm sure law enforcement officers are really struggling out there...

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Plenty of LEOs make shit pay and are held hostage by that low pay like the rest of us. I know it may seem like they’re enemies, but when you break it down to dollars and cents, we’re actually in the same boat.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That's one thing I never understood about their willingness to protect the upper class. They're in no different of a situation from the rest of us, one missed paycheck away from missing rent or groceries.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's the same reason why factory workers don't join unions or go on strike.

The system is designed to enforce compliance and keep individuals focused on submitting in order to meet their short-term, basic needs. Desperation is the design. When everyone is forced to choose between standing up for themselves or feeding themselves and their families, most people throughout history choose food.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Bootlickets... It is always the bootlickers who are most effective at enforcing the regime

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

There's an American lie way too many people believe- "I could be like them one day if I play my cards right."

You will never be like them. You weren't born one of them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The upper class grants them power over their peers in lieu of decent pay.