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35 crypto companies got together to make a change dot org petition called "Bitcoin Deserves an Emoji".

F that

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[–] [email protected] 112 points 7 months ago (9 children)

We also need a McDonald’s emoji, Pepsi emoji, Windows emoji and Mastercard emoji. These are also brands that are heavily ingrained in our culture. Probably even more so than Bitcoin.

Or we accept that brands like Bitcoin shouldn’t use emoji as a marketing tool.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Probably even more so

probably? shitcoin isn't even in the same ~~ballpark~~ universe as something like McDonald's or Pepsi.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah McDonalds is based on torturing and murdering animals while destroying the planet.... While bitcoin is only destroying the planet like the rest of capitalism.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago

vegans stay on topic challenge (impossible)

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Since when is Bitcoin a brand lmao? I'm really struggling to see how it is comparable to McDonald's or Windows. Having a logo does not make you a corporation

[–] [email protected] 32 points 7 months ago

The Bitcoin logo is the brand. Corporations like exchanges use this brand to market their services.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Bitcoin is a network protocol. not a brand.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The logo and name is the brand. How do you visually represent a specific payment protocol without using its logo? There’s no emoji for HTTP or TCP either.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

while there may not be an emoji for http, maybe there should be. there is sort of an unofficial one (a broken lock), and there are other protocols that have logos. as another commenter said, it's kind of silly to fight for an emojii for it, and probably sillier to fight against it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

while there may not be an emoji for http, maybe there should be.

No God, Please No!

We don't need another gzip or bzip2 logo. Lol

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

I'm actually for the idea of emojis for protocols. Not Bitcoin specifically because I don't think it has long term potential as a deflationary virual asset, but block chain? Sure.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Nobody is saying Bitcoin to refer to that, ever. Come on.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

maybe no one you talk to, but I assure you, it happens. it is happening right now, in this conversation

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

These are not public infrastructure

[–] [email protected] 27 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (2 children)

yes, it is. anyone can spin up a node or download the blockchain or make an address.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Anyone can shit their pants. Is that "infrastructure"?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You think you can fool people by using a simple straw man argument technique? Come on, get your shit together. Bitcoin is infrastructure as anyone can submit transactions to the network and they will be seamlessly processed. As simple as that

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I know that shouting "straw man!" is the first step of trying to deflect from being wrong on the Internet... But if you're going to do it, at least know what a straw man is.

My argument is that "Infrastructure" != "anyone can do it".

Infrastructure is something that benefits and maintains the general public. Bitcoin benefits a handful of cryptobros, billionaires... and most importantly ransomware rings.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Your straw man is "shit in their pants"

Read your own comments dude

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The person I was arguing with was saying that "infrastructure is anything which is something anyone can do". I gave an example of something that anyone can do which isn't infrastructure.

It's absolutely a direct refuation


a counter-example which disproves their original statement. It's not a "straw man", as much as you get mad and scream that it is.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

So you were wrong from the beginning. He never said "infrastructure is anything which is something anyone can do". You are the only one who said it. He provided an example of a service provided by the infrastructure in question

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

the sewer is infrastructure. i don't think you understand the network protocol.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm not using the sewer when I shit my pants. I don't think you understand pants.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

maybe you should use the public infrastructure.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Should the fediverse get an emoji? How about Matrix?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

as was already said elsewhere, advocating for an emoji is silly, and advocating against one might be sillier.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Putting significant energy into campaigning against it? Sure. But what's silly about saying "this is a stupid idea and shouldn't happen"?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

that blog post and petition are significantly more than just saying it's stupid

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Bitcoin is digital money. A better analogy would be to campaign for a USD, Yen, euro or British pound emoji.

Oh wait, they already exist.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

https://unicode.org/emoji/proposals.html#Faulty_Comparison

The existence of other emoji can’t justify the inclusion of a new emoji. Those emojis are old, and it’s unlikely they would’ve been approved under Unicode’s current guidelines.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I agree with you.

I'm not really arguing for a bitcoin emoji. Just against the McDonald's brand comparison.

BTC is not mainstream enough (and never will be) to be needed in everyday text speak.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

It's also a scam. But those who fell for it and NFTs want to downtown cuz mad

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

The coin itself is not a scam.

However, its main usage is to receive payments from scams or any other kind of computer-related crime really.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Except those are real currencies the world recognizes.

Most businesses will tell you to fuck off if you try to pay them in bitcoin.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Most businesses will tell you to fuck off if you try to pay them in bitcoin.

Yes and no. You can indirectly pay for things in Bitcoin using a Bitcoin credit card. Although I'm not sure why you would want to.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

It's not "paying in bitcoin" if you have a random third party on your side converting it to a currency that isn't a joke.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

We also need a McDonald’s emoji, Pepsi emoji, Windows emoji and Mastercard emoji

bitcoin is not a company.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Also not a brand, in the trademark sense

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

🍟 <<< Only one brand sells French fries / Chips in this format. And it's the super-size format.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Unicode Consortium decide which emoji should be included. It’s up to each vendor themselves to come up with how they should look like. I don’t think Unicode Consortium explicitly state it must look like McDonald’s fries.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

No. But the description of the Emoji is French Fries in a red carton.

Now I can't be absolutely certain only McDonald's sells french fries in a red carton, nor do I know if red french fry cartons are trademarked (answers to these questions evaded simple websearches) but I have never seen french fries sold in red cartons outside of McDonald's.

If you do find non-McDonald's french fries sold in a red carton, please point them out.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Red carton is chosen because that’s how it’s commonly depicted in cartoon images.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=french+fries+cartoon&t=h_&iar=images&iax=images&ia=images

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

The red and white stripes are the generic 50's era diner fries. Flat red was introduced by McDonald's in the 1980s extra-large and super-size cartons. (Before that McDonald's fries were sold in white waxed-paper envelopes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

At KFC they’re in a red plastic box of the same format. Can’t buy them cuz of reusable packaging laws in France, but that’s what I thought first when I saw this emoji

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

That's fair. I had forgotten KFC made their own version of fries and boxed them in red.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago
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