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[–] [email protected] 29 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Abstaining from animal murder and torture is admirable and something I should do OTOH some internet commenters are mean about it

I wonder why they would be mean...

[–] [email protected] 99 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Good job! This is the comment that made them turn vegan! Mission accomplished!

[–] [email protected] 45 points 7 months ago (3 children)

That's not the goal. They attack people because that makes them feel better. Animals? Who cares. Definitely not them.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago

I'm a cow and this made me feel better about my fate

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (3 children)

yes. it is the vegans who really hate animals!

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

What I said is that you don't help animals with your hysteria. So I can conclude vegans struggle with logic. At least in your case.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

Nope, thats projection when carnists refuse to read all the studies that supports the plant-based diet and act rude when they realize their actions cause harm.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

brutal take down. nice

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

Nah, facts dont care about feelings. Being vegan a day prevents the death of an animal.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

If your belief lives or dies because of some internet comment it won't last anyway.

Edit: as in, what sustains it is the actual moral implications of a non-vegan lifestyle. I was convinced to go vegan by internet comments like this.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 7 months ago (3 children)

See here’s what’s really really funny, people over and over again say “man if the vegan people who were trying to convince me could just not be gigantic assholes about it then maybe it would be easier to join their community”

And then you come along and are a gigantic asshole about it and prove the entire point.

Super solid representation, 5/7, perfection.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago (4 children)

If you need people to be nice to you to convince you, you care more about appearances than the argument. If people being rude stops you from acting on something you actually believe in you won't last a month as a vegan.

Going vegan means changing your habits, giving up a lot of your treats with nothing in return. You will be the weird one at christmas that needs "special" catering, people have to choose restaurants based on your habits and you will be the butt of a lot of jokes simply because you care about animals not being enslaved. If you need people to be nice to you, and applaud you and make you feel all warm and fuzzy to keep that going you won't last.

The first lesson every vegan needs to learn is: there are no rewards and no one will compliment you. You are doing this out of your own conviction and not for anyone else.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This is precisely the circlejerking mentioned in the meme. Whether true or not, the community presents itself as unwelcoming and self-aggrandizing. These are not traits that easily convince people to listen to the cause.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

There's nothing to listen to, either you believe animal ag is horrendous and unethical and act on it or you don't. That's it. No pretty pleases are going to convince someone they have to give up their beloved steak and cheese for nothing in return.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 7 months ago (7 children)

Then why are you trying so hard to explain yourself?

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago (7 children)

Right, we get it, but if you tried attracting people to veganism with amazing recipes, and annecdotes of how much healthier you feel, people might come have a conversation and try making some vegan food. Instead these communities drive anyone non-vegan right out the door.

What's the expression? Honey will catch more flies?

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Well this has been great, thanks for being the point.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (3 children)

good talk nice representation, really convinced me to be nicer to corpsemunchers going forward.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

You're a breatharian? No corpse munching from you.

Are you pure enough that you feed the bacteria in your body without suffering?

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

You must be exhausting to be around. sheesh

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

Going vegan means changing your habits, giving up a lot of your treats with nothing in return. You will be the weird one at christmas that needs “special” catering, people have to choose restaurants based on your habits and you will be the butt of a lot of jokes simply because you care about animals not being enslaved. If you need people to be nice to you, and applaud you and make you feel all warm and fuzzy to keep that going you won’t last.

this should be on a billboard.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Having a reasonable discussion with these people is like trying to play a game of chess with a pigeon. They'll topple all the pieces, shit on the board and claim victory.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

thing is, it's a philosophy of empathy and compassion. you don't really join a.commmunity. there are no V cards I'm afraid.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This discussion is literally about the vegan community here on Lemmy

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

If belligerent internet comments actually convinced you to change your diet in such an inconvenient manner for no reward but moral superiority, you are not like the people you're trying to convince. Abusers and cults love bomb because its more effective on a random sample of people

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I was going to stop torturing animals, but some mean vegan said some words that hurt my feelings.

So now I'm going to eat two burgers!

chortle!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I think I will actually do this now just to prove you wrong

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Meat eaters will be convicted for eating meat in the future.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Lmfao. You gonna be vegan Stalin or something?

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 7 months ago (1 children)

@Stovetop did not say nor implied that he/she is not vegan, because of the community.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I probably should be vegan ... But ... I would never want to participate in a vegan community.

Seems pretty clear to me.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You can take part in something without taking part in the community about that thing, though. I play guitar a lot, but I don't frequent any guitar-based communities

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I'm fully aware, but "I'm not going vegan because they're so annoying" is a pretty common excuse.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Take the L dude.

Not only is that clearly not the reason in this case, of what you say is true (and I believe it considering your behavior) that's a pretty damning indictment about your collective personalities.

Youre blaming OTHERS for leaving your cause because YOU'RE impossible to put up with. Pathetic. The literal definition of that meme where the dude puts the stick into his bike spokes and then cries about it.

If you hate non-vegans so much then stop talking to them. Simple as.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago

Yeah that isn't what they said though

[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Then you need to go back to school for reading comprehension, because being a vegan and participating in a community about veganism are not the same thing, not even remotely close.

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