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[–] [email protected] 154 points 7 months ago (6 children)

Reverse nepotism baby that wants to play archaeologist on Netflix. He's also extremely paranoid that "big archaeology" (lmao) is out to get him because he cannot handle criticism from people that know what they're talking about. Tldr weirdo on Netflix that thinks he's a martyr.

[–] [email protected] 82 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Ha, now I wanna watch it. Might be fun if you treat it like it's Cunk on Earth.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

"...and on this grand battlefield, the aliens had their first successful battle against protonapoleon, they had learned to...

...would suffer worsening results for centuries while the aliens established themselves slowly across the south pole and up towards Australia. Eventually developing into an opening for a slaughter across much of Southeast Asia. The tall, narrow mountains are actually mass graves for the...

... the grand fortification of the majority of what is now called Tibet endured assaults and sieging unequalled in scale, but stood strong for decades. Vast swaths of territory was being lost in Africa and America, but the line at the Himalayan range practically never faltered, with the exception of smaller breaches. By this time, their very strange and interesting form of nuclear weapons technology had finally had time to enter the theater, and preparations were being made for a massive surprise attack...

...there were apparently only a few hundred outposts left, but advance forces and the rolling production and use of nuclear weapons were steadily taking them down, dozens every month. The majority of the alien empire was reduced to ash and rubble, a nuclear stockpile – vastly larger than even the modern superpowers at the height of the Cold War – was emptied in its entirety.

While the cleansing of Earth was almost done, the results required them to heavily adapt their civilization, there was heavy bunkerization of everything that was not abandoned, and expansion of subterranean production of...

...likely meant that finally, they had won, there were none left to be found. The final proper outpost was destroyed very long ago, but there were many sightings for a while after; With Alaska's search now finally being completed with no findings, there was nowheren left to look that they hadn't. They would leave nearly a hundred thousand scouts stationed to keep an eye out, like they had done all over the world, but any aliens they couldn't find must have crawled deep into the Earth only to be entombed to a cave-in. So thorough and global are the signs of the massive search they committed decades to...

...an asteroid, almost certainly too massive to deflect despite being spotted so early. The centuries of peace had been appreciated despite the hardships, but this turn of events brought a wave of madness over much of the world. Production of space equipment was still in nearly full force and teams were already being sent out do as much as they could, but likely they'd only be able to chip off a fraction of it. Frantic research into alternatives was ongoing, but there were few who hadn't accepted the futility of it all, the majority were on a hedonistic spree for the next few months...

...impact, the global devastation...

...and that's how the most interesting period of Earth's history came to an end."

[–] [email protected] 63 points 7 months ago (1 children)

reverse nepobaby? How does that work? His kid gave birth to him and then hired him?

[–] [email protected] 125 points 7 months ago (3 children)

His son works for Netflix and got him a show.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 7 months ago

Wouldn't that be "nepo daddy"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago
[–] [email protected] 25 points 7 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago

One of his kids is a Netflix exec apparently.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

When you have a famous kid, I'd guess, but I don't know.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago (2 children)

the show is fun to watch if you realize it's just him tearing through the strawmen he set up for himself

[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago

I want to call him Don Quixote, but that almost feels like a compliment.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Don't have a boat in this race, but banning him from otherwise open historical sites because they don't like his ideas is not scientific, but more like the mediaeval Catholic church.

Science is full of bigoted thinking as any other discipline. If you don't already know this, you have never met a scientist.

Having said all that, it is a silly idea, but I enjoy the incidental geology that he employs to illustrate his argument. Not that I buy into the argument itself.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Quacks get banned/shunned because they're usually obnoxious and abusive, not because they hold fringe ideas. If it was only the latter they'd fit right in in most fields.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You will have to point out where he was obnoxious or abusive. I've not seen either of these traits from watching the show.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Well of course you're not going to see anything negative on a show recorded and produced by the person you're talking about. Historical sites aren't just about the infrastructure/items, it's about honoring the memories and past lives/accomplishments of our ancestors. In regards to the "snake" banning, that site already was embarrassed by a previous recording of ancient aliens, and historical sites have learned not to let organizations and promoters take over and misrepresent the cause and importance of those sites. From my understand they don't even let in people like NPR, they are there as an educational resource and not to be hijacked as proof for a theory they don't represent.

Now if it was an actual scientist working on a scientific research paper? Sure, be outraged. A guy trying to film a show looking for evidence to prove a hypothesis? (not how the scientific method works) Completely delusional to get upset about it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Very good explanation, and I respect your point of view.

Even with that in hand, scientists can still be sometimes too precious. Being the official and truth holder of all things can also keep gifted amateurs out of the running. I'm not anti-science, I'm a fan. There is a long history of professionals jealousy guarding a patch that is not necessarily always ethical.

Anyway, that is the exception.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

"According to Hancock, the ancient pyramid Gunung Padang in Indonesia and the ruins of Nan Madol in Micronesia were both built by an “advanced civilization” more than 20,000 years ago during the last ice age. However, present-day Pohnpeians say their oral histories passed down through generations describe the city of Nan Madol as being built by their ancestors beginning around 1,000 years ago – a timeline supported by historians and archaeologists.

Professor Patrick Nunn, who specializes in researching Pacific geography and archaeology at the University of the Sunshine Coast in Australia, told the Australian Broadcasting Corporation that Hancock’s theories about who built Nan Madol strip Indigenous peoples of their rich histories and can be traced to “racist philosophies” and “white supremacist” ideologies of the 19th century."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jul/01/netflix-ancient-apocalypse-canceled

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So criticise Hancock's theories. Nobody is saying that archeologists can't do that scientifically.

What I'm suggesting is that acting all butthurt when confronted with alternate theories and banning amateurs from entering the field is akin to protecting the priesthood.

Once again, not defending Hancock's ideas, but I'm being critical of science's reaction to them. Anyway, you guys are not very adroit in doing so. We are about to start watching the third season and he's using your actions to fuel the fire.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Nobody is banning amateurs or being butthurt when confronted with alternative theories that make sense in any way, shape or form. His so called theories make zero sense, have no evidence and investing all that time and effort debunking for free, when he is actively being paid to produce that bullshit, is something that most people don't have the time or resources to do.

And such disinformation butchers critical thinking, but it is great to produce revenue for Netflix and himself, so since he is financially motivated not to change course or even acknowledge his bullshit views, then he can not be considered as a valid source of theories.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like a whole lot of butthurt to me?

Science isn't perfect either, a fact which scientists tend to push under the rug.

I'm an old fart, so I can remember the great scientific scare campaign of the 1970. Global cooling. It didn't come from the great unwashed masses either, it can from professional researchers in white coats and worried brows. They got it wrong, and contributed to the beginnings of scientific distrust we have today.

Spare me the whole diatribe about intellectual fraud. You guys need to get your act together and communicate better rather than just sit in the friggin clouds and tut tut against the hoi polloi.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, I am done engaging with you, you are either trolling for a reaction, or literally unable to understand what I am saying, so cheers.

If that sounds like "a whole lot of butthurt" to you, I am certainly glad I don't need to engage with you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

I would say that you continue to litigate a point that I never made in the first place. I have no opinion about the rights or wrongs of Hancock's theories/claims. My entire point - my only point - is that if he is making entertainment, so what? Not allowing him to film in national parks because it offends science is wrong on so many levels.

Lastly, I didn't ask you to chime in, so I'm not bothered if you beg off. See ya!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

My recent favorite is anthropology ignoring all evidence of women hunting because it didn't fit social morals of the researchers. Even finding women buried with shields and weapons and people still making excuses.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

That's a good example. Another is from my country, Australia. The idea that the Aborigines were just nomad hunter gatherers was seriously upset by the discovered fish farming settlements in the north of the country as well as the remains of basic stone buildings. Settler farmers have been destroying the evidence of these artifacts for 150 years because they upset the politics of "peaceful European settlement".

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Damn minions of orthodoxy, I'll keep my cells from getting bored and then what?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Such a strange episode