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"While Waymo is now providing over 150,000 autonomous rides every week, Tesla still has a long way to go until its controversial "Full Self-Driving" software is ready for the EV maker's competing robotaxi service.

Just this week, a Tesla driver plowed through a deer without even a hint of slowing down with the $8,000 add-on feature turned on, and another smashed into someone else's car when its owner employed its Summon feature."....

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Just so no one mistakes the above as hyperbolic, musk actually said this during an engineering meeting. His engineers kept telling him why Tesla needed the extra sensors, and he replied "people just have eyes and they can drive."

Anytime someone tries to play him off an engineer or anything but a lucky gambler and flim flam man, just remember the above.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 5 months ago (1 children)

and he replied "people just have eyes and they can drive."

People also have a brain. Most of them even use it when driving.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago
[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And then the car mistook the side of a white semi for the sky and plowed full speed into the semi, decapitating the driver. These systems see, but don't really understand what they see.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Self driving doesn't need to be perfect it only needs to be better than humans.

Examples like this are kind of pointless because humans are incredibly bad drivers statistically.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (2 children)

It needs to be quite a bit better than humans to actually take off. The difference between a person driving and anything else is who is in control, and therefore to blame. Just being statistically better than the average person isn’t good enough, imho.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

An order of magnitude better would give trust. Slightly better doesn´t convince people.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I still think the technology would be getting pushed forward even if it was only slightly better than humans. However it is far safer than humans which is why its growing rapidly in application.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

However humans may also be getting better via self driving tools such as radar cruise control. So you’d need to compare to a human with access to these tools.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Thats a good point. I cant wait for that stuff to become more widely available so we can see how that impacts things.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Human eyes are far better than cameras at real time adaptation to varied lighting conditions though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

And we can predict what will happen pretty well and adapt to the situation dynamically. Our only weakness is that we do stupid shit like drunk driving, speeding and not paying attention.