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submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

That’s all.

EDIT: Thank you all for detailing your experience with, and hatred for, this miserable product. Your display of solidarity is inspiring. Now, say it with me:

Fuck Microsoft

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 4 months ago (6 children)

Is there a Microsoft product that isn't?

To be fair, Teams is pretty bad even for MS. I've never seen something do so relatively little and still perform so poorly. When I switched jobs and got to use Slack it was like a great fog being lifted off of my being.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Excel, Active Directory, and to a somewhat lesser degree MSSQL.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Excel?! Have to respectfully disagree on that one.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Excel is great.
It does so much that people make it do what it shouldn't, and never think to explore technologies beyond it... Like a proper fucking database.
Then you get garbage business systems based on fragile excel sheets with bonkers macros and weird ETL pipelines to sync things.
And never try to deal with dates and timezones.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

And never try to deal with dates and timezones.

Or anything that looks like dates.

Gene scientists had to revise their whole naming scheme because Excel would see MARCH1 (Membrane-Associated Ring-CH-Finger Type 1), and 'helpfully' convert it into a date, rendering it useless (since it uses timestamps on the backend).

It's bad enough that my data science course recommended against opening CSV files in Excel, because it would edit the file to do the conversion, even before you explicitly saving, mangling your data before you could process it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Reminds me of my last job where I had to build a ridiculously complex excel spreadsheet that I copied a bunch of reports into to do scheduling because someone decided I didn't need access to the actual data...

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's an awful mix of half-assed approaches to things. Awkward syntax on everything and very poor at recognizing what types of data it is handling.

Open a CSV in a fresh Excel install. It will almost certainly mistake something for a date if the CSV is sufficiently large (unless the user is exceedingly explicit at changing settings for that particular CSV). It will reformat that data as a date, and as an added bonus, since Autosave is on by default, it'll save that reformatted data back into your CSV. Yes, settings can be changed to avoid these things. But why isn't it just designed better so as to avoid it altogether?

If that was just a natural side effect of spreadsheet apps, I could understand it. But LibreOffice Calc is a million times better at recognizing what types of data it is handling, so it seems to just be Excel's shittiness.

The fact that it also hasn't really changed beyond aesthetics since 2004 is just... wild.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

Can confirm. I've sent csv files to my coworkers, and they've tried to tell me that the files I sent were invalid. It's because they opened up the file in Excel to look at it first, and Excel autosaved the reformatted data.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Sadly I had to go the other way, from Slack to Teams. Oh the horror!!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

For your sacrifices, I salute you

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

How about Zoom to Teams?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

I have an old Microsoft brand thumb drive that fits perfectly into my ass and makes me nut every time

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

PowerPoint is shit but it's the best by far

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

I must be the only one who prefers Teams over Slack. I just don’t like its design. Nothing makes sense to me in how it operates. But then again, Trams runs fine for me. No slow downs or deleting things that others have mentioned.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

C#, technically not a product but it's pretty great. The first few Xboxes, but that's going back a bit.

Windows pre 8.

Microsoft Excel is goat for spreadsheets.

Erm. Can't think of any more.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Windows 8.1 was great, you just have to enable the start button and disable Metro. It's basically a faster Windows 7.