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I live in the U.S. too and I still see a ton here in Indiana, but we also apparently have a nicotine addiction epidemic here that no one talks about much.
As of 2022:
https://www.in.gov/health/tpc/files/Indiana-Adult-Tobacco-Survey-ATS-2021_2022-Highlights_Revised_Nov22.pdf
I'm in Western NY, but even in NYC it's less than 9%. The state offers a lot of support for quitting, perhaps that's why.
Aren't cigarettes like $15 a pack there? That probably has something to do with it.
They're $15 throughout the state. So they're probably more in the city.
Reservation cigarettes negate those prices though.
TIL that, on at least some Indian reservations in the United States, cigarettes are sold, sold at a lower price and sold to the general public. I could not find a reference on Wikipedia; all I found was a seemingly unofficial webpage.
The reason they're cheaper is because they don't need to charge tax on them. Regular cigarettes are the same price, but they have all of the taxes on top of that, which makes them cost three times as much.
That's interesting there isn't anything on wiki about it. It's not a secret or anything.
I understand. Thank you for confirming it.
I've heard people here in Europe sometimes save on cigarettes in a similar way, by buying them across the border, where taxes are lower, or in duty-free shops at airports, but that's possibly outdated or even made-up hearsay I've never checked.
There may be something I missed, or it might be such an inconsequential and uncontroversial phenomenon that no one deemed it worth documenting.
You don't have to go to the rez, or be a Native. We used to buy cartons at the Indian smoke shops in Tulsa. $1 pack in the 90s.
That's exactly it. I'm a smoker from one of the states with the lowest taxes on cigarettes. I'm heading to New York in a couple of weeks and I'll be stocking up before I leave. If I lived there I would quit, can't justify spending that money. I've already switched to a cheaper brand that has deals at Sheetz that make them roughly $5 a pack.
I've never done this myself, but I've known a couple people that take a ton of cigarettes with them when they go to New York. This is highly profitable and highly illegal.
I doubt there's much support here at all and there was pretty much a red wave in this state in November, so there will probably be even less next year.
I remember when I left Indiana 25 years ago that it was the highest per capita state for smoking, with Kentucky being number 2.
I don’t know what the rate is here in Massachusetts, but it’s rare to have to smell cigarettes these days. I really think we’re more likely to (and my kids complain about the stench) encounter pot smokers these days. I can’t help but think that’s a good thing … but have to follow up each with an obligatory dad lecture on the health concerns with putting burning anything in your lungs
Edit: West Virginia, of course
So what would you be your solution?
Why do I need a solution to recognize a problem? Or are you saying that many addicts is a good thing?
how harmful do you consider tobacco in the context of booze?
Is it a contest?
No, i dont think so, i just don't think its fair to demonize smoking if we celebrate drinking. everyone has a vice.
When did I celebrate drinking? Both addictions are huge burdens on the healthcare system.
Both should be demonized.
This post being about plastic waste caused by cigarettes, I'm not sure why you're whatabouting alcohol.
It came up on the context of nicotine and how much people are addicted, yet i don't see the uproar of the people who throw their empties into the river or on the road.
Because people were already aware of the problems there and, just based on comments, many people aren't even aware that cigarette filters are plastic.
Do you bring up cigarettes whenever alcoholism is mentioned or is this only a one-way street?
i always bring it up when people defend it but alienate smokers
So it is, in fact, a one-way street. It's all about smokers.
no, im stating that people will demonize smoking which is fair, but when drinking is discussed its "socially acceptable" When are we going to start putting warning labels on alcohol bottles/boxes like we do with cigarettes?
Sooner, I am guessing, than you being willing to address the topic of plastic pollution, which is what this is about.
that was never my argument, my argument was about the stigmatization only on one vice when it should be on both. I don't think my words were clear or you are not understanding that.
Thank you for proving my point.
prove what point? what are you on?
See this?
See how it has nothing to do with addiction or putting warning on packs or anything else you've decided to bring up?
That's what I'm "on." It's called the topic.
I won't be holding my breath and expecting you to have anything to say about it. Not when you can defend the dignity of the poor, oppressed Nicotinian Peoples.
ok. glad you future discussions must be on topic and cannot be expanded upon
Hey, did you just learn how forums work? Someone puts up a topic for discussion and everyone discusses it! Good job figuring that out!
It's especially true in a community who's whole purpose is to tell people something you learned for the first time today and have them talk about it.
Now hopefully you can figure out why no one wants to talk about a totally different topic solely because you decide to change it.
^(Hint:^ ^you're^ ^not^ ^that^ ^important.)^
ok.