If things get censored you can never have a discussion about them and I think that's bad.
You can't argue with .ml people. They just want to praise their glorious mass murderer ... I mean, leaders.
Is "how can anyone support countries like these WTF?" really your idea of a fair question?
You're a troll who got banned for trolling. You weren't even creative with your trolling, just "hurr durr China bad". Do something more productive with your time.
Firstly, if you're going to just blanket defend tankies, the least you could do is pay attention, Im not OOP and this is MOWG not YPTB. MOWG is where anyone can and should post documentation of the tankies behavior, agenda pushing and biases. YPTB is where, by comm rules, only OP can post their issue.
Secondly, are you claiming OOP didn't post something truthful? Was there something incorrect? Is Russia actually LGBTQ+ friendly?
Admins of .ml love to claim that they don't censor like the "Reddit-like .world/.ee" instances, but this flys in the face of it. The mods of that comm didn't even decide to remove that post, it was davel, an instance admin that's not listed as a mod for that comm
Well at least the tiannemen square part is bullshit.
Care to elucidate? I've never seen any valid reasons to think it didn't happen. The only thing I've seen is people trying to excuse that it was justified somehow, which is a preposterous concept.
From my understanding, its not a secret anymore that the western media came up with their own story about what happened. I dont expect you to believe me of course but I'd point you towards statements and articles from people who were there when it happened.
Here's one from a WAPO journalist: https://www.cjr.org/behind_the_news/the_myth_of_tiananmen.php
Edit to add: my favorite bit of propaganda is how most people think the tank man video ends with him being run over. It can be slightly tricky to find the full video though unless you are looking specifically for it.
They only like aljazeera when they're reporting on palestine.
Some context without getting too detailed due to it being considered apologia here: the 38th and 27th armies almost fought each other during the events. The 38th wasn't willing to use force, and the 27th was all too willing, which precipitated a chance of civil war being sparked when there appeared to be military backing the student protests, or seemingly refusing orders.
Unpacking the tension of 1989 protests is way more academically sensitive than a Lemmy thread in this community.
How does that tie into the claim that China suppresses calling it a massacre or act of violence "bullshit"?
Jesus, the guy just asked a fair question and got banned. You know what it smells like? It smells like tankies shitting their pants and calling mommy for help.
What is rule 1?
Rule 1 is the lemmy.ml instance wide rule "officially" against bigotry, but unofficially and in practice, it's their catchall Rule for any speech they don't personally like i.e. speech critical of Russia/CCP/NK etc
You see, criticism of China = sinophobia = bigotry = rule 1. Easy.
It is precisely, exactly the same tactic as 'any criticism of the actions of the Israeli government and/or Zionists that support them = you are a Jew hating antisemite.'
"Picking quarrels and provoking trouble".
https://chinamediaproject.org/the_ccp_dictionary/picking-quarrels-and-provoking-trouble/
I got rule 1d for saying "BING CHILLING"
That was the entire comment.
It's an accusation framed as a question.
But ya. The banning has gotten out of hand.
A critical mass of precious ideologues? Seems unlikely. I actually think somebody is trying to split up lemmy.
Complains about communist censorship
Tankies censor them
Checks out
It's it all political posting? Has anyone tried a similar post with a pro Russia slant?
How can anyone in good faith support the west?
/s ofc.
I did. On Reddit. And got banned. Now switched to Lemmy, because I thought that mods are normal here, but it seems that either Reddit mods caught up or Lemmy is Reddit in blue. Hope not so!
Lemmy isn't a centrally controlled entity. Each instance has its own rules...
.ml for example is a Russian controlled propaganda instance. Even thinking something bad about China or Russia while browsing there is enough for a ban :p
Thanks for the hint and advice to be aware of potentially changing rules among Lemmy instances. At least there is the possibility to stay in an instance with lesser restrictions.
PS How can the mods in the .ml channel see what I think ๐ณ
They can only see if your instance hasn't defederated. There's also lemmygrad and hexbear for increasing levels of auth commie lunacy.
-2 demerits
Well aside, I love indications that someone has never seen a word in writing. The visual equivalent of a bizarre pronunciation. English is full of these opportunities because it's a creole gone feral. Occasionally you get it both ways, where people never connect appetizers called "ordervs" to a menu section titled "hors d'oeuvre."
Rule 1 strikes again.
Literally!
OMW to spam world everyday with post like
How can you support US humhum they are very bad here's a list of all bad things US has done in history and is currently doing.
I'm a very big human defender you see humhum I don't understand how you can be an American citizen and still haven't revolted it must mean than you support every bad things that has been done by US gov..
Are you seeing all these guys minimizing US action instead of revolting ?? They are not even caring to learn they bomb middle east for no reason I guess they all support bombing Yemen.. omg US conception of human rights seems a bit barbaric, are there schools in USA ?
I dont support any of them, what I support is better social policies on all of the planet
-16 and what's that? You're not banned ๐ฒ
You're defending the instance that said and supported "France deserves 1000 Charlie Hebdos?" From @jai.lai or whatever your french instance is called?
Ok, well have fun with that.
People already do that.
They're not banned. You have to block them yourself.
If you want people to know what you are saying you need to take the shoe leather out of your mouth first.
"Oh, this is calamity! Calamity! Oh no, he's on the floor!"
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