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[–] [email protected] 133 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Yeah GRRM thinks too much of his characters, he wrote a match between Jaime Lannister and Rand Al'thor, and Jaime won. Absolutely ridiculous a guy who can wield magic that can burn people out of time vs a guy with a sword.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also a guy who reality shapes itself around and therefore doesn't really lose.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Also he has the memories of hundreds of years of training in the sword.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Also when he lost a hand he didn't become a little bitch.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Sometimes things just work out that way

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

He turned an entire army into aerosol at the Battle of Dumai's Wells. I'm pretty sure he can handle little Jamie Lanister.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

The Wheel weaves as the Wheel willls

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For real, even without channeling Rand was a basically peerless swordsman.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't bother of them lose their dominant hands?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah. Rand was still inhumanly badass afterwards tho

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Rand broke and reformed existence itself. I don't think he'd be threatened by a little sister fucker.

[–] [email protected] 89 points 1 year ago

So one Question I'm always asked. Who would win in a fight? Who would win in a fight if Galactus fought The Hulk, or if Thor fought Iron Man? And there's one answer to all of that. It's so simple, anyone should know this. The person who'd win in a fight is the person that the scriptwriter wants to win!

-Stan Lee

[–] [email protected] 80 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think GRRM would declare Ser Pounce the winner in a match against Kratos.

I freaking love ASOIAF, but this guy talks way too much crap sometimes.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I haven't read the books, but it seems like a theme is that everyone is extremely "human". Like no one in the series could miraculously survive a fall of a cliff. That's why I like the show, but I think it would pretty immediately discount anyone from being able to win a fight against a pseudo-superhuman who was able to, almost literally, walk off the damage from falling off a cliff

[–] leftzero 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

everyone is extremely "human". Like no one in the series could miraculously survive...

Some Targaryens are fireproof (e.g., Dany), some people can't seem to be able to get the hang of staying dead no matter how much they're literally killed (e.g. Beric Dondarrion, Lady Stoneheart, wights, if you consider them people, Ser Robert Strong)... plenty of the supernatural going on in those books.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Dany isn't categorically fire-proof in the books. She survived a one time special event, with the help of the ululating chant and some kind of magic. But after that, she could be hurt by fire.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Or if you do, say, survive a fall from a tower window you don't survive, get magic powers, and become king in the end.

Oh, wait.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For me, everything that happens on HBO after Jon is stabbed by his brothers is just high-end fanfic. I will always believe that the showrunners fucked up the ending. And, let's be real, GRRM isn't going to prove me wrong.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

They might have rushed it but I'm pretty certain the big plot points are the same. They'd always claimed they had the broad strokes ending from Season 1.

The one thing I could have seen him do was not bring Jon back but it honestly doesn't change that much

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

What I always found weird about this, is that even in universe Martin makes a point that Jamie wasn't as good as he thought he was. He ends up being humbled.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Right? Jamie is not nearly the best fighter in his own story. How can he possibly beat magical creatures?

[–] leftzero 2 points 1 year ago

Seriously, give me Ser Arthur Dayne wielding Dawn and then we'll talk. (Aragorn would probably still win, but at least he'd have a bit of a challenge...)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Head canon.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago

Some guy with one hand who fucks his own sister.

Now, Aragorn vs Dassem Ultor could be an interesting fight.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago

JRR-logic: "Well the reader probably likes Aragorn more, so yeah, he gonna die."

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It is a stupid question to begin with, and it was classy from George to give a straightforward answer, and maybe it would have been more classy to say that Aragorn would have won.

But I don’t understand this antipathy towards George, he wrote some great groundbreaking fantasy novels just as Tolkien, and I’m happy I was able to enjoy both.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He wrote an unfinished soap opera in book form.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago

unfinished soap opera

Soap operas are designed to not finish. It was doomed from the start.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I tried to read A Game Of Thrones and it was so boring. It didn't stay with one character long enough for me to get invested in their story. Too many characters, and not enough writing skill to pull that number off.

I think George should have written a few simpler novels to practice good writing before he went and did a big project like this.

[–] leftzero 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think George should have written a few simpler novels to practice good writing before he went and did a big project like this.

Guy's been writing professionally since 1970; his first full length novel was punished in 1976; he had been awarded two Hugo awards, six Locus awards, two Nebula awards, a Bram Stoker award, a World Fantasy award, and a couple Emmys before he even published A Game of Thrones.

Him having no experience writing shorter works is extremely evidently not the problem.

Him not having written something on the scale of A Song of Ice and Fire before, and writing himself into a gordian knot of plotlines and characters his aged brain might not be able to untangle, on the other hand, might.

Or he simply lost interest and would rather write about gridiron in his not a blog. 🤷‍♂️

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh, well then I guess he's just not very good

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Martin is a troll, so he gets treated like a troll. It's as simple as that.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago

https://youtu.be/1-so7GT02ko?si=71VxlrEYYVr9aiQ1

In Deep Geek covered this, and I'll take Roberts opinion on it over GRR Martins.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

Gg, Im the perfect amount of drunk to actually very literally lol at this. Am I embraced by this. Perhaps.

But do I imagine Aragorn wondering where that -0hp damage is coming from? Perhaps.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (4 children)

He also wrote a short story in which 1 armed Jaimie bested Rand al Thor. You can't take him seriously

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Haha! What a dummy. Rand Al'thor, the champion of the Battle of Dumai's Wells, The Dragon Reborn, the man who broke the world, was bested by a sister fucker with one hand? Okay then!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

...

Rand would no diff him even if he was still locked in the depression box

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

"You're talking mad shit for someone standing in baelfire range"

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The blonde dude lanaster who gets the metal hand.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Okay but Arwen was kind of stepsister to Aragorn too

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No, not at all. Neither of them shared a parent. They're technically cousins, but the amount of generations between Arwen's uncle and Aragorn make the familial link not matter at all

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Stepsister, Aragorn was raised in Rivendel and Elrond was closest to a father figure

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Raised by and adopted by are two different things. You can raise someone and not have them considered as your child. Not to mention the whole definition of a step sibling is sharing one parent, adoption doesn't make you a step sibling

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You’re thinking of half sibling. Step sibling is when someone’s mom marries someone else’s dad. No relation.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Ok, yeah I got that wrong.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

they met when Aragorn was 20 years old and Arwen was over 2700...

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

They're not even the same species, of course they're not siblings.

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