It's almost like overworking people in the name of profits gets in the way of safety snd reliability.
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What are you, some kind of socialist?
Hey Karl Marx, preventing needless death isn’t profitable! Enough.
Thank god the wealthy control the courts and government, at least. They’ll keep the lid on this rabble-rousing.
Keep in mind they literally do not care until it gets in the way of profit
They tied bonuses directly to how many planes were delivered. Definitely a good way to promote cutting corners.
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It has been said a lot these last few months, but it is worth repeating untill Boeing stops dicking around...
"It is Boeing, I ain't going"
It's also important to try to avoid jumping to conclusions without the facts. If this is a new 737 and there's a manufacturing issue, then rake Boeing over the coals. They do have problems. But if this is an older plane that had either maintenance issues, then go after Southwest first unless it's a Boeing responsibility. And of course, things do happen beyond anyone's control too, and engines that fail for any reason but don't take out the rest of the aircraft is a bit of a win for design.
Neat. Now compare vs Airbus and see all those different compartments become meaningless.
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The story doesn’t mention the age or variant of the plane, but there’s a good chance this is an issue with Southwest maintenance, not Boeing (or their subcontractors) construction.
Some quick googling got me the details.
- The article mentions the flight number.
- Since I didn't know the airline code of Southweast, I googled Southwest and the flight number.
- Google flights showed me the full flight number.
- Putting that into Flightradar got me a list of the last flights of this flight, one showing a deviation.
- Going in there gave me the registration number of the plane that flew that flight and data about the type of plane.
- Searching FAA registry gave me all details of the plane.
It is a Boeing 737-8H4, delivered in 2015, so an alomst decade old plane, meaning it was probably an issue with maintenance this time.
Doesn't mean I would fly a Boeing plane untill the stop dicking around.
How would they stop dicking around with a plane sold to Southwest 9 years ago?
You are aware of the other recent high profile accidents with Boeing planes and the issues with Boeing mgmt?
This incident may not be related, but based on the other issues I remain steady in my resolve that if it is Boeing I ain't going.
Untill the focus of Boeing shifts from it's share value and back to engineering, I will be very careful about getting on a Boeing flight.
I'm aware of a number of airlines experiencing random mechanical issues on Boeing aircraft they've owned for years. And 1 issue that was a new plane which is still under investigation and likely was Boeing's fault
I and my team of about 25 engineers travel for work constantly. Weird mechanical issues happen way more than the public realizes. Saying all of it has been Boeing's fault is factually incorrect.
You are absolutely right that claiming it is all Boeing's fault is incorrect, I never claimed that it was.
However, since the MD/Boeing merger, Boeing mgmt has acted reckless with safety.
They have pushed the margins of safety too far and we are starting to see the issues now.
I realize that you and your team may not have a lot of choice about what plane you can fly on, but I have, and I will pick flights based on the plane.
I get it. And I'm probably an oddball with being fascinated about flying even before I started traveling for work. Now it's something I do for fun to track planes I'll be on.
So to me the only thing that's changed recently is the news getting clicks running any story they can about Boeing. They could have been for years if they wanted to. But it's one of the current hot topics now.
And even now the news should be shitting on the airlines directly much moreso than Boeing. All issues I've heard of since the door blowout would have been a maintenance problem. Especially United. It seems like those fuckers in particular have cut corners. I avoid them in general when booking regardless of plane type.
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They wouldn’t but then people ragging on Boeing are also correct. So.
Shall we all wait for the next disaster? Keep scrolling to find out!
Hey what was that union that Reagan destroyed to avoid paying them? I forget.
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The article doesn't say "bomb jolt" it says "bump, jolt." In case no one actually reads the article.
Thank you, luckily Lemmy let's you edit titles @[email protected]
lets* you edit
dammit
Lemmy lets you edit comments, too!
(I hate autocorrect sometimes...I don't know why mine keeps changing lets to let's and other similar things...)
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Oh hey look it’s a Boeing plane again.
BOEING DON'T MAKE ENGINES.
But sure. Pile on.
They might not make the engines, but they are responsible with certification and checkups.
yes, but they bolt them on, certify them and maintain them.
And if this really is the fault of the engine-producer, then Boeing took a inferior supplier for its aircraft, not really any better.
I’m sorry but this OSS wrong on so many levels.
This aircraft is 9 years old. It is a B737-800. Boeing’s responsibility ended when it was delivered. Southwest are responsible for all maintenance and inspection since then.
There is only one manufacturer of engines for the 737NG type, CFM. The engine itself may go back to them for maintenance as they do run overhaul shops. But they are extremely reliable engines. And this engine didn’t fail, the panels came off.
This is not an engine failure. This is more likely some poor young fella forgot to clip the cowlings shut after preflight checks.
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goddamn planes are falling apart no matter who the fuck makes or services 'em. I am slowly but surely losing trust in air travel at the moment.
I mean, all recent coverage seems to have been about Boeing planes..
..but stuff like this is likely more due to shoddy maintenance than production faults, right?
It’s just that everyone is hyper-vigilant currently for anything that goes wrong on a Boeing flight currently.
but stuff like this is likely more due to shoddy maintenance than production faults, right?
yes exactly. you nailed it of course, it's the same thing like when you buy a car and then you see it everywhere. Human brain likes to connect patterns when possible so anything Boeing is like, 'there they go again!' when in reality it's poor maintenance. Part of why Alaska Airlines has looked real bad with all this stuff, bad maintenance like you said.
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