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[–] [email protected] 109 points 1 year ago (7 children)

... No clear answers?

I'm 35. I make enough to pay bills but a home is still out of reach for me and my gf, together we pull about 175k

When I was 21, expensive drafts were $5/16oz. Cheap ones were $1. Rent was ~$750/mo, utils and stuff brought you close to $1000. I worked 40 hrs a week in a kitchen making $15/hr. I got free food the burritos there were $9.99, fair at the time.

Today, someone makes the same wage, gets 12 hrs a week, the food isn't free when you work there a burrito is $17.99, and the apt I was in is $1750/mo

I wanted to die plenty in my 20s. I can only imagine the bleak hellhole they see and exist in.

...the clear answer is more opportunity, more money, more education, less burdens.

What the fuck happened? Like it was bad for me and my friends. Our parents pitied us. But now a draft beer is line $11 for 10 oz. A cheap McDonald's order is $15.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (5 children)

It's clickbait. There was an article like this a while ago about teens and suicide and they were like, "we have no idea why this is happening!", even though for years people were saying social media was harming teens.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

even though for years people were saying social media was harming teens.

And that article, had you bother to read it, pointed out that there was plenty of conflicting evidence as to whether social media was the cause, and warned that by mindlessly blaming social media because it is easy might lead us to overlook the real culprit.

But good on you for demonstrating it's point.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (6 children)

If $175k/year isn't enough for you, you are part of the problem.

So many people work harder for so much less, but you think you deserve more before them.

Just like how people richer than you operate.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Enough for what? They clearly stated that home ownership is out of reach for them.

Rest of their comparison is about things now vs things 10 years back and how it's worse for someone in their teens and 20s.

Learn to read.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Enough to stop you from complaining you don't have enough.

Their comparison is irrelevant.

You're just upset I'm criticizing people with too much wealth.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No. I'm annoyed because you can't read.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

That all depends on where you live

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Jesus wept, if I earned HALF that I'd be very comfortable for the rest of my life. That's an insane income.

Imagine earning almost two hundred grand a year as a family and then suggesting it's a struggle. That's wild.

I mean sure, if you live in a gated wealthy community and only buy the finest things, and have very high wealthy standards, then I imagine that would seem like pocket change.

But 14,500 dollaroos a MONTH? That's enough to support multiple families. That's equivalent to SIX adults working a full time minimum wage job. SIX!

Imagine being two people, bringing in the wage of six people, and suggesting it's a tough life. I would kill to be in that highly privileged position haha.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

He's complaining that his standard of living has decreased...

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[–] [email protected] 78 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's how you know that no one important is invested in finding a solution.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

We tried nothing and we're all out of ideas.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It can't be the soul crushing capitalism, commoditization of everything (love included), and isolation guys, right? It's definitely not our corporate profits.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago

Can't be added on with multiple "Once in a generation" natural disasters happening on a yearly basis with temp records breaking yearly, nations with the power to demolish the world rattling sabers over a fight that's been going before we were born, zero chance of moving upwards in the crushing capitalism, all the while the leadership is fighting over identity politics instead of acknowledging any of the problems. Surely none of those are add on factors.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think it mostly comes down to increasingly unfair distribution of wealth, which leaves people with no hope to better their standards of living.

Our civilization creates things with constantly increasing productivity, which should lead to better pay and less time spent working, and more time to live a fulfilling life. Instead, all this added wealth is funneled towards a few mindbogglingly rich individuals.

This happens with the help of a sizable fraction of the population, which has become convinced that their mediocre situation is in fact caused by even poorer and more miserable people, rather than the assholes siphoning everything and everyone from the top of their already obscene piles of riches. And there's no sign of this changing anytime soon. No wonder people are desperate.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Our country sucks, what other answer do you need? The boomers fucked it up for the rest of us and now there's no joy, just constant struggle.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

I can't argue with that.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Our society benefits those who manipulate and cheat, and punishes those who choose not to. Pretty simple

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

only true for top percentiles.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Not really.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nope, it's full spectrum. An asshole cashier that manages to fudge their drawer so the next shift comes up short and they get the cash in their pocket is considered "clever" for pulling one over on the rube. Arbitrary division and competition has soaked through all levels of America.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

I’m not even gonna post the paragraph I was gonna post lmao well done

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's the growing disparity in wealth.

I recommend taking matters into your own hands before taking your own lives.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It’s a lot of things. Climate hopelessness, a political system that seems hellbent on maintaining this negative feedback loop, yes, the economic situation, but also a soulless life under late stage capitalism where it’s proven over and over again you matter less than a line going up, we are commodified at every turn, our personality traits are nothing more than economic indicators or data points to sell us more shit…we live in a hostile world. And it’s hostile by humanity’s own making. And it’s soulless by our own making. Maybe humans used to die at 25 by a mountain lion attack more frequently, but some kind of purpose was found in that survival life. Depression and anxiety and a feeling of pointlessness are capitalism-made.

This problem seems so framed by experts as “why do these kids want to die?” When the question they should be asking is “what is society giving them to live for?”

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm on a train trip across the U.S. today, so I will add what I see out the window: A landscape systematically strip-mined of beauty, meaning, and sense of place in service of extracting maximum profit from the people who have to exist in it.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Yup. That too.

We are detached from anything close to a life tied to meaning. All meaning was bought and sold. Our ancestors were turned into bricks to build the foundation of capitalism, and we aren’t even that important anymore. We’re the fuel that the massive engine of capitalism runs on. The machine is built. Now it’s running over capacity and more and more of us are needed to stoke the fires that keep the over-indulged engine running at max capacity to spit out some goddamn pitiful little line that means further excessive wealth for those who were born from the people who turned our ancestors into goddamn bricks.

And they ask, “why are kids so darn melancholy?!”

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Please point to the bootstraps I may pull to fix:

Income disparity

Inflation

Price Fixing

Expensive Medical Care

Rising rents

Increasing Fuel Costs

College Debt

Climate Crisis

Subsidized Oil,Gas,Corn,Beef,Eggs

Water Rights Crises

Because if they exist I will pull them.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago

The only reason there's no clear answer is because it's several answers all together.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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