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    [–] Norgur@fedia.io 93 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    According to the Linux Foundation: Yes According to Google: No, not really

    [–] neshura@bookwormstory.social 79 points 11 months ago

    According to the kernel output on any android phone: yes

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    [–] rtxn@lemmy.world 87 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    You are on this council, but we do not grant you the rank of master.

    [–] grue@lemmy.world 61 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    This is why "GNU/" is the important part.

    [–] Schlecknits@feddit.de 47 points 11 months ago (2 children)
    [–] dan@upvote.au 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    What do people use Alpine for? Embedded systems?

    I sometimes see it used for Docker containers, but usually a distroless or "chiseled" container is a better fit and can be even lighter weight.

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    [–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

    As well they should be!

    [–] fossphi@lemm.ee 24 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    I feel like GNU and the GPL are the best things that have happened in the tech space in a long time. I wish more people understood the significance of this and the FSF

    [–] KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

    Careful, you're gonna make the BSD users angry. All 4 of them.

    [–] androidisking@lemmy.world 51 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    I was talking to a friend the other about about this. He said he loves the Android OS. He said imagining putting Linux on it and I couldn't help but laugh. His eyes widened when I told him what Android really was

    [–] snf@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    Genuinely curious what he had in mind. A GNOME desktop? A terminal shell?

    [–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)
    [–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 15 points 11 months ago

    Grandma is not in sudoers file. This incident will be reported.

    [–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

    Right I mix up Linux and Android all the time. Literally the same thing /s

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    [–] samus12345@lemmy.world 38 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    Are penguins even allowed to use any other OS?

    [–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 23 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    I've seen a fox use Chrome, so I guess so

    [–] WeLoveCastingSpellz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    objective answer= yes but not gnu, in other words just the kernel

    [–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 8 points 11 months ago

    I would say the biggest thing that makes it not have the benefits of running Linux by choice is your lack of control (by default). You don't have root access and you aren't allowed to do much with it. The experience is much different than running Linux by choice yourself, even if the kernel is the same.

    [–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    Which is all we care about

    [–] WeLoveCastingSpellz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    speak for yourself, it is like saying windows and reactos are the same

    [–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    But I don't think those have the same kernel.

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    [–] Humorless4483@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    Android and chromeos are as much Linux as macOS and iOS are FreeBSD

    [–] Aux@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    Android and ChromeOS are more Linux than MacOS and iOS are a FreeBSD. Apple closed the source quite a while ago and they have their own fork which I bet is very far away from the original now.

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    [–] humbletightband@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 11 months ago

    I like how being gay just moved from being an insult to being slaaaaaay babe

    [–] HStone32@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    I've been patiently waiting for advancements in true Linux phones for years. I feel like a hypocrite when using android. Anyone know if pinephone is nearing a new release?

    [–] Aux@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (4 children)
    [–] Darorad@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    Eh, it depends how you define Linux. Android uses a modified Linux kernel, but most of what's above that is different. By the point you're at the application layer they're basically completely incompatible.

    Is it technically Linux? Yeah but it's so different from a user's perspective it's best to treat them as separate imo.

    [–] Zink@programming.dev 4 points 11 months ago

    Sounds like it is more correct to refer to it as GOOG/Linux

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    [–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 18 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    The way I see it is Android users are Linux users the same way fans of games who have only played the spin-off games are to people who have played the mainline games. They're just a different kind of fan.

    [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    You claim you've never liked Final Fantasy and yet I can clearly see a copy of Chocobo Dungeon in your Dreamcast.

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    [–] foggy@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    A Google supporter? πŸ€”

    [–] lseif@sopuli.xyz 22 points 11 months ago (1 children)
    [–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

    The graphene representation on lemmy is insane

    [–] Shady_Shiroe@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Android, is in fact, GNU/Android, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Android. :D

    [–] tuxrandom@kbin.social 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    Wouldn't it be more like Android/Linux (or Android plus Linux) because it only has a small fraction of the GNU software / libraries but still uses the Linux kernel?

    [–] Adanisi@lemmy.zip 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

    Yes.

    In fact, it's a good argument as to why "GNU/Linux" isn't wrong, even if it is cumbersome.

    Android + Linux = Android, but GNU + Linux = Linux

    ??

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    [–] pelya@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

    You can kinda sorta run Linux userspace on Android, with a bit of compatibility layer.

    [–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

    Yes, it’s only elitists that say otherwise but we can disregard them

    [–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago (16 children)

    No. It's technically Linux, but has none of the benefits that are suppose to come with Linux.

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    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    F-droid

    Additionally the Android kernel is so heavily modified that you can't just make a phone run Linux

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