It’s probably the refund.
this post was submitted on 06 May 2024
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You're likely right. If I recall correctly, the decision to do a refund is entirely steam's and the publisher has no choice but to foot the bill because of steam's tos. To add to that, refunds don't include the 30% cut steam makes on the sale, so the publisher actually loses that money if they have to cover a refund.
Say the game costs $50. Steam takes $15 of that and the other $35 goes to the publisher. If steam decides a refund is in order, the publisher must pay back all $50.
So yeah, Sony was losing money for every copy that got refunded due to a reason steam found justified. Given the sheer publicity of this whole thing, someone up top probably realized that if they carried through with it it'd cost way more than the pennies they'd squeeze per player by force linking their accounts.
People shit talk steam being a tyrannical monopoly all the time, but they are pretty consistent when it comes to treating their users fairly. This is a prime example of steam using its leverage to stop something really shitty.
I love steam. I'm okay with the monopoly until it stops protectecting its users.
The reason steam has managed to remain consistently relevant and beloved by its users is for sure the fact that it is not a public company, but owned by nerds and the people working there. Makes for a great employee retention, and without being hounded by shareholders they can operate properly and with long term plans.
Yep. If they ever go public, we're all fucked. Shareholders and quarterly reports ruin everything.
Was thinking the same thing. If steam goes public and gaben moves on to whatever, enshittification will begin.
God, hopefully someone else can take up the torch if that ever happens.
Yeah. Part of me is uneasy with the monopoly, but unless they start abusing it I don't think there's really a problem. Besides, they're not the same as a railway: nothing's stopping a game company from directly providing executable downloads, and some do.
I watched a few videos of some indie dev team as they released a game. It basically boiled down to wishlisting is a huge plus, and issuing refunds is the biggest thing you can do to hurt a company.
So what you are saying is... refund the game. Then buy it again? ;)
Steam might not have considered refunds if it wasn't for the tidal wave of negative feedback. So users' collective action is worth something.
Honestly if steam did not start issuing refunds, I dont think that Sony would have changed their mind.
Just don't forget to give the game a positive review now that Sony backpedalled. That way we can be ready for next time.
Good idea. Then they know backpeddling works, and thus any initial decision has no consequences.
You must be a genius!
Arrowhead deserves a second chance. It’s a great game.
No. Find ways to say "this is why I didn't buy (unrelated Sony product). I didn't go see (movie made by Sony pictures), I bought other brand's consumer electronics instead of Sony, I'm not even entertaining the thought of buying (game somehow owned by Sony) because look at what they pulled with Helldivers 2. Sony's brand is that of betrayal and I don't want to be betrayed."
Actually do this, and say on product reviews that you are doing this, until the news gets bored of reporting "Another Sony executive found dead at his desk."
Then it might get better.
Hmm. This specific meme makes me wonder if its creator doesn't quite grasp the inherent satire of the source material...
I'd say the choice of format is driven more by the similarity between ST and HD, and less about an accurate analogy with the source material
Fair, though this specific one hit a little closer to home considering its topic and the source material.
That's not really how memes work. Or do you comment that every time you see that steven crowder douche? Actually steven crowder doesn't play mario kart on the wii, therefore he would never debate you.
When the only swimming pool around is also the kiddie pool, the adults invariably risk wading into floating turds like your gem, kiddo. Your internet high fives from other shit muppets aren't the accolades you think they are. Stay in school.
Well, memes are a complex phenomenon, but anyway adding more depth by using contextually related material never hurts
What movie is it? Is it worth watching?
Starship Troopers. Yes it's worth watching. It's both an excellent satire of a society dominated by its military (it's portrayed as if it's an in-universe propaganda film) and an extremely well crafted action film.
It was directed by Paul Verhoeven, the same guy who directed RoboCop and Total Recall.
If you play Helldivers, you have to watch Starship Troopers.
HD takes its tone, premise, and many more things from that movie (and a bit from the book the movie satirizes).
It's Starship Troopers, one of the inspirations for Helldivers, afaik
It was good when I last watched it, but that was quite a while ago, the movie is from 1997, after all
That movie holds up really well imo. The sequels were never great. I don't want to shit on them too much, because they were basically very low budget and it seems like they tried
Repeat after me: There were no sequels
The animated ones with Big Boss Rico and the power armor were all right.
Thanks!
Oh you're in for a treat!
Haven't been playing/following HD2 for a while now. What happened?
Edit: nvm, a quick google answered this, ps account linking stuff.