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Pretty much all of them.

Modern Batman and Modern Superman.

I won't go on my 2 hour rant off everything wrong. But a short version is the writing for them is lazy and undeveloped. Both of them represent the most uninteresting form of a power fantasy. The modern Batman of 'having a plan for everything' and being this overburden angsty character is just awful. If Batman was a d&d character, he has loaded dice and is throwing that 20s on intimidation. And for Superman he's just not interesting, because with the amount of power he's been given and the amount of abilities he has the fact that lex luthor is somehow a villain of his is laughable.

Batman used to be the world's greatest detective. And for me the last time I saw Batman be Batman was the '90s animated series. And frankly the most recent movie The Batman also did a very good job I thought in that regard.

Superman used to have limits. He was fast but not infinite speed fast. He was strong but not infinite strength.

In both cases it feels like the people who write for these characters use one simple rule... This my favorite character so he win. Neither character feels like their struggles are earned, because the writing is forced. Like it used to be if Superman needed to save somebody you weren't 100% sure he'd be able to get there in time, stop the bad guy save the people! Modern Superman is like, a being a hundred light years away, tripped and their falling! They need your help before they get a boo-boo and I have no doubt Superman would get there somehow and then save a hundred worlds along the way. (An over-exaggeration I know but I want to get the point across at how lazy I feel the writing is). Or the fact that anybody fears Batman when most of his villains barely fear him. You have members like Green lantern, Martian manhunter, Superman, and Wonder woman who act like in any way Batman is a threat to them.

I'll stop ranting cuz I can honestly go on. But I will say with the massive decline for me personally with these two, I've been far more receptive of some of the other DC characters that I used to overlook when I was younger. I can't believe I 100% slept on the flash like that dude is straight boss. Or plastic man! So at least some good came of it.

Iron Man.

The guy supported Yellowjacket joining the Avengers.

Are you judging by the movies, or the comic books? The movies keep him a perpetual teen; he's way more sassy and adult in the comics.

"He just never seems to become an adult"

What are you expecting? That fictional superheros grow up and get old?

Spiderman first appeared in -62, so you'd have never seen him as an immature teenager, but a grumpy middleaged dude.

On that note, there are depictions of adult Spiderman. Like in "Into the Spiderverse" or what was it.

But the essence of the character is the relative immaturity. Like Batman's is gruff vigilanteism and Superman's overtly good nature.

There are tons im not wild about. Can't stand. I dunno. at this point there have been multiple versions of most and usually at least one interpretation is decent.

All of them: I want authenticity,

and "superheroes" are fake human-meaning, engineered to push distractine power/ego-fantasy instead of actual-human development.

Read both of John Truby's books, "The Anatomy of Genres", & "The Anatomy of Story", and become much competenter in what story/movie makers should be doing,

and then consider how much is being invested in preventing realism-of-context from being known by mass-media consumers..

..and then understand the long-term consequences of deliberately/systematically diverging mass-awareness from what real meaning, real human context, is, .. through decades..

It's part of a whole-class, or whole-population, suckerpunching, but it seems to be of unconscious, not conspiracy, intent.

Pretence-programmed populations are less realistic & less reality-competent.

Bollywood & Hollywood both produce divorce-from-reality.

That isn't required, for story, or human-meaning, is it?

I agree with spiderman, I've still not watched his stand-alone movies.

Also hulk once he becomes "smart" hulk in end game.

Also fat Thor in end game, again not funny just whiny.

All but Dexter.