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[–] [email protected] 47 points 10 months ago (3 children)

gonna teach them by playing monopoly properly

[–] [email protected] 42 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

You can teach them properly about capitalism by making them follow the rules to the letter and following slightly relaxed rules for yourself, such as starting with extra cash and the ability to take out interest-free loans on you properties while still collecting rent, and reducing the costs for you to buy houses and hotels because you can leverage market forces in you favor.

New chance cards only you could get would include:

You busted a union, collect $100

Shorted stocks and left everyone else holding the bag, collect $25 from each player

Caught Insider trading, pay $1 or go to jail until your next turn

[–] [email protected] 32 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

The original game that Monopoly is based on (The Landlord's Game) was a tool for teaching how bad landlords and owning land privately and permanently is. Monopoly is still a great tool to show how an early advantage leads to an ever-growing monopoly that will inevitably crush all the other players with no modifications necessary.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

Exactly this. If you want to rig the game, just give one player a bunch more money than anyone else and watch how the natural game unfolds.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

If you want to simulate Capitalism with the Monopoly game, you need to start with:

  • All the land is already owned and randomly developed.
  • Not everybody starts with the same conditions: you have 3 classes of player, "high" getting a large amount of money and a share of the land already occupied, the "medium" getting a small amount of money and no land, the "low" starting with no money and no land. You can randomize who gets which class.

That only one of those who starts as a "high" class player has any chance to win and the game is no fun for the rest is part of the lesson.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's the only way to play if you don't want the game to last for three days.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

It's not the only way to play. The original version -- "The Landlord's Game" -- had an entire second "Prosperity" ruleset that Parker Brothers didn't want you to know about.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

That wold be cruel.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

For every 10 full size snickers you collect, I give you one loose m&m.

I also put a couple of your siblings up for adoption right before Halloween to let you know you're expendable.

If it bothers you, you can always go talk to your mom, who empathises, so that you feel good enough to get back to collecting ~~my~~ our candy. But she will immediately come tell me everything you said.

You ungrateful worm... After all I've done for you?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Did you mean to say that the mom is empathetic? Because emphasising has a different meaning.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

You forgot to take away 1/3 of the loose M&M after giving it to them.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Additionally, if your bucket handle breaks, you need third party software and hardware to create a matching digital signature to replace the handle.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If your bucket does not have an internet connection, it has no bottom. It is merely a tube.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 32 points 10 months ago

"Sorry son, little Johnny across the street is willing to go trick or treating for only two pieces of candy per hour, so I'm taking him instead."

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago

Based. Also teach em to share the buckets so they can distribute the candy democratically.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago (2 children)

This is like the level of the boomer meme about teaching kids about taxes.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago

I think it's meant to be a parody on the boomer anti-socialism meme

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

The cycle remains unbroken.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

you only get to trick or treat on the property you own

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

libertarian Halloween is shit!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And the candy is all homemade from raw ingredients made in unregulated factories...

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Teach them about statism and tell them you own the bucket and all the candy they gathered and all the candy all their friends gathered. Give them a welfare of a few pieces of candy you gathered. Then tell them to go gather more candy otherwise they're grounded.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Is statism some term that uneducated Americans with a "gubment bad"-complex uses when they can't figure out their -isms?

EDIT: Yup. Some neolib "hey why am I not free to exploit people the way I want to? fuck the gubmint!" bullshit that "anarchists" apparently swallow whole. I swear anarchists, anarchocapitalists and neoliberals are the dumbest fuckers around.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It'd be more correct to say that they all own the totality of the candy gathered, because they share the bucket, and as such can democratically allocate the candy.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I like this, I felt like I learned your view better. Unfortunately I'm an individual not a collective. I own my own body and therefore I own the fruits of the labors I endure. I dont think this theoretical democratic "they" should have any say over my body or the products I generate with my efforts.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (30 children)

Will you pay them to collect the candy too?

[–] [email protected] 45 points 10 months ago

Sure. Out of the 50 pieces gathered by 5 children, each will recieve 1. The owner of the bucket needs to be compensated for their risk, after all!

[–] [email protected] 31 points 10 months ago

You collected 36 pieces of candy.
Coincidentally due to forces beyond my control your rent this month is 35 pieces of candy. You understand I’ve got bills to pay too, right?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

of course. They will recieve 30% of the candy the collect as payment

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

What a generous rate! And a great way to ease them into the shock that the real rate is much, much worse

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

Well, lets see, I make my company about 3 orders of magnitude more money than they pay me every year, so I suppose if my kids gather 1000 pieces of candy, I'll give one back to them as payment.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

That'll be 50 snickers bars please

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

mom always got her 'cut'....

as payment for driving us across town to the 'good' neighborhoods.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Kids will start using their pillow case

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Child: "But daddy, this pillowcase smells like chemicals and has holes in it?"

Dad: "Halloween is cancelled, you're a freedom hating lib-cuck that hates freedom."

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

If they learn anything, it's to shove some rocks in the pillow case and beat their dad with it until they get to keep all the candy they collect.

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