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[–] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 126 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)
[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 46 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You can probably drop the “lol” part.

[–] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 85 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (7 children)
[–] Kadaj21@lemmy.world 28 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I’m a millennial, i do it all the time lol

[–] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)
[–] Bob_Robertson_IX@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I thought "lol" was short for "Just wanted to let you know that I'm a millennial so you can better understand where I'm coming from with this comment."

Does it have a different meaning?

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[–] anticolonialist@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago (18 children)

Project 2025 is the culmination of 50 years 'lesser evil' voting. Instead of accepting no evil, democrats tolerated right wing politics and its policies as long as it had a D next to its name.

Marginalized communities have been living with versions of P2025 all their lives. This only scares white liberals because its something that finally targets them. Democrats demanded we ignore our oppressors and vote for them and didnt have our backs. Now we wont have theirs for the mess liberals created.

[–] Psychodelic@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

You had me in the middle bit

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[–] AshMan85@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] Drusas@kbin.run 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That is downplaying the threat.

[–] Land_Strider@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Not even closely. It has arrived, butchered all your neighbors one by one, now it is at the doors of those living in American Dream houses. You were just just chilling in your garden and paying taxes to the machine that was axing all the marginalized groups one by one, until this year when they are finally narrowing the "orthodox" line to leave the white liberal on the marginalized side. Enjoy the last vestige of comfort Biden tries to push for the U.S. citizen while straining your conscious with the suffering elsewhere, as was the accepted American liberal lifestyle for a quarter short of a century now.

As for the Europeans, don't be lazy or be apathetic and vote while you still have good candidates. Most of you have abysmal vote percentages because so far your governments kept your individualistic lifestyles untouched. Don't assume you can keep the peaking fascism tide via shifting Overton Window at bay without showing an almost identical solidarity the right wing shows at every continent on earth. The "Russian propaganda, blackmail, bribery, etc." is only the beginning. Iran had experienced the same meddling by the U.S. decades ago, the whole Middle East and North Africa have been experiencing it since early 2000 at least. Turkey started going down the same path with Menderes and American influence during the cold war in the 60's, and not even half a century later we have Erdoğan and even worse shariah-law touting coalition parties with him propping up now.

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[–] anticolonialist@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

Has been for decades

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 20 points 11 months ago

There is no fascism without dictatorship.

Bet

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (3 children)

We've seen it, us who live outside of America and have had the pleasure of being invaded. Must be nice to use everyone else's land as battlefields and never having to fight one at home, and ignoring the atrocities and fascism committed by your armies on foreign soil.

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

WWI and WW2 were absolutely necessary actions to contain others aggression. The Korean war is the only reason that the entirety of Korea isn't under an insane dictatorship. Afghanistan attacked the US (stupidly enough) Iraq v1 was to contain a war of aggression.

Vietnam and Iraq v2 were wrong.

and fascism committed by your armies on foreign soil.

How does one commit a fascism?

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

When you send in your cia to round up citizens of foreign nations and execute/torture them, and fund death squads that disappear people without due process, what do you call that but fascism?

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[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

Brilliant photo illustration.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (5 children)

I hate to break it to all the libs - but the US is already (and has been in the past) about as fascist as it can get. You want to see institutionalized (and perfectly normalized) fascism for yourself? Just look for your nearest cop - you won't have to look long.

Liberals have always signed on to US fascism - as long as it wasn't aimed at them, libs were fine with the imperialism and class repression (all the things you can't do without fascists) long before Trump was even born.

Trump is not a fascist - he's merely cosplaying as one. Trump knows he couldn't drain the swamp even if he wanted to - the swamp made him. This is not good news - the swamp (ie, the US political establishment) has always nurtured and maintained fascism to keep the people at the bottom from threatening the people at the top. US fascism is nothing new. - this call was always coming from inside the house.

[–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 25 points 11 months ago (4 children)

You obviously have no idea how bad it can get.

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[–] Dreizehn@kbin.social 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Every single Allied WWII would roll in their grave and the f'n Little Austrian Corporal would be f'n proud of the f'n MAGATs.

[–] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You’re allowed to use curse words here.

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[–] AnAnonymous@lemm.ee 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

American fascism got the power since like 50 years ago, I don't know why the west propaganda machine says it's something new.

[–] btaf45@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago (2 children)

You're confusing us with Russia

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

Because it always bares repeating. Republicans plotted a fascist overthrow of the US government. IN 1933 No one was punished or suffered consequences. The descendants of those involved achieved the presidency TWICE. You know their names and the damage they've done. Or at least you should.

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[–] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Fascism has always been a feature of America and part of this country's core. The Trump admin is a real threat. It doesn't help the Dems fighting against fascist are perfectly fine with standing by and working with fascists with bipartisan efforts that only go in the right-wing direction.

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (3 children)

No. Not same sides. Don't. The problem is the fascists. Not the naivete of civil servants trying to fund the VA and Medicare.

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[–] Eol@sh.itjust.works 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

Open thoughts... But I feel like it's dumb to equate every "fascist" to Hitler and use Hitler and WW2 imagery. I feel like it dumbs things down.

If you believe Trump or whoever is a fascist their actions and their own image is enough. People aren't going to think differently because X is portrayed as Hitler. It seems like gimmicky propaganda to do that. Anyone you would ever want on "your side" would understand this. As result people disregard both "sides". Do you want people to switch to your side because of social political marketing or because they are actually cognitive enough to have a real understanding of life and reality? Imo it seems like a way to get useless people to join your side out of emotion. In turn dumbing down your side to emotionally reactive people. Marketing doesn't get you a base that cares, it gets you a following.

I suppose that's fine in war if you want cannon fodder to use... But that also sounds like something an anti fascist wouldn't want.

In modern politics it's like it's an art to build the biggest base of useless people to abuse for cannon fodder.

[–] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago

The RNC had a stage shaped like a Nazi pin and put up on an electric sign ‘we are all domestic terrorists’ but okay.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago

The father of the concept you're talking about. Has come out to say the trump comparisons are apt and not uncalled for.

While we shouldn't imply that every little chucklefuck is literally Hitler. Or that every group of fascist are literal Nazis. It would be more disrespectful to not learn the lessons of history. And wait till someone is on the verge of challenging the score. Republicans and trump have had their bonifides verified.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 13 points 11 months ago (4 children)

You are right, but many Americans probably wouldn't get it if you used Stalin. For better or worse, Hitler is the face of fascism; Stalin the face of communism. They were both fascists, as were Mussolini, and Stalin.

It's just short-hand imagery; everybody knows what you mean. Pinochet was a fascist dictator, but he was also a brutal sociopath, so he's confusing, even if people recognized him.

[–] Dreizehn@kbin.social 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Please add Spain's dictator, Francisco Franco. That bastard allowed Mussolini and Hitler to test their military during Spanish Civil War.

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[–] aodhsishaj@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Stalin was a totalitarian not a fascist. You can have authoritarian regimes without fascism. Stalin actively fought fascists, was the main reason we won D-Day. He was also a brutal vicious cruel man who ruled his inner circle through fear and paranoia.

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[–] anticolonialist@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Fascism is strictly a right wing ideology

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[–] anticolonialist@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] jabeez@kbin.social 21 points 11 months ago

Both sides!

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