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And after crunching the numbers, the organization sees warning signs in the form of soft support for Biden in the 2024 electorate.

HRC estimates that this year there will be 75 million “equality voters” — who vote based on support for LGBTQ rights — up from 62 million in 2020 and 52 million in 2016. But the group says one-third of them aren’t a lock for Biden. In the six key swing states, hundreds of thousands are “at risk of not voting,” and another group of hundreds of thousands of voters are what HRC refers to as “double doubters” who will likely defect to a third party, according to data HRC shared with NBC News.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 10 months ago (2 children)

If you don't like Biden and he wins, you'll have a chance to vote for someone else in 2028.

If Trump wins, that 2028 election is not assured.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolender/2020/09/13/trump-says-he-will-negotiate-third-term-because-hes-entitled-to-it/?sh=3c2a866d287c

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

Also, yknow, the next 4 years will be a hell of a lot worse for a lot of people.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

*republicans all powerful and get everything they want. Democrats held back by republicans blocking everything they do.

This isn't the best argument for supporting your party

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So tell what great viable far Left candidate is waiting hidden in the wings?

Please, I'm dying to know the great alternative you've got lined up.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If Democrats did their job and held their politicians accountable an alternative wouldn't be necessary. They are supporting their own oppressors and striking back at anyone trying to hold them accountable.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So tell what great viable far Left candidate is waiting hidden in the wings?

Please, I’m dying to know the great alternative you’ve got lined up.

So much complaining, so little solution.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

My solution is to no longer support either right wing party. Can't claim to support progressive ideas while supporting the status quo that keeps everything the same.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Hmmm... It's almost as if you don't understand how elections work.

Also, you should look up the history of progressives becuase this situation has come up in the past.

There were plenty of women and former slaves who worked for politicians even when they themselves couldn't vote. Those politicians couldn't promise to get them the vote, either.

But I guess you're more moral than those people long ago.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I understand how elections work, I also understand that voters have zero impact on policy or legislation. Thats a privilege reserved for the monied class.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's more like

Republicans are willing to bend the rules and cheat to get what they want

Democrats are cucks to the system that they think is perfect

Honestly, fuck both of them. There are no good candidates this election.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

The thing is republicans dont have to cheat, the blue wing of fascism gives them everything they want. In rhetoric they are Pelosi ripping up her copy of Trumps SOTU, In action that very same day she gave him his requested military budget and threw in a few billion extra for good measure.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

Seeing as Trump raised 50% more than Biden in April, Biden needs all the help he can get.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

You're literally called "Human Rights Campaign" and you're campaigning for someone who is supporting a genocide this minute with weapons. Shameless.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Those LGBTQ people are, people. Human beings. Humans.

What a terf post.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Genocide denialist or genocide approver?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

What the hell does Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminism have to do with protesting a Genocide?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

The choice is:

  • Support candidate that is tacitly okay with genocide
  • Support candidate that is enthusiastic about genocide and stripping away LGBTQ rights
  • Say nothing and let the second candidate operate unimpeded by your opposition in key states

I mean... come on, let's be reasonable.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That is not how it works.

It is: "Who wants to get the vote must uphold human rights." The fact that Biden rather wants Trump to win, than to do that should tell you everything about how his second term and the DNC will be after him. Once they think it will gain them some votes from the Republicans, they will start to crack down on LGBT too.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This only makes sense if the people who think like you reach a critical mass, which they have not and very likely never will.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

And that is because of people like in this article paying a lot of money and working their lobbies very hard, to not have it happen. You are being propagandized with the same "us vs. them" bullshit, that the Reps pulled in 2016 to get Trump elected. 2024 Dem supporters sound scarily similar to 2016 Reps.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If he's okay with genocide over there then he's okay with it here. I get that HRC is trying to do damage control but this is evidence that Democrats will turn on marginalized groups the very second they think it benefits them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If he's okay with genocide over there then he's okay with it here

That is a gigantic jump but go off

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It has to do with how someone values human life. They may not find a genocide here convenient or may not have the correct people in place, but they're okay with doing one if they thought they needed to.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The best thing they could do is convince Biden to shut up about Israel unless it's to say, "We are stopping all military aid except air defense missiles to intercept rockets and we will not stand in the ICC's way."

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

We are stopping all military aid

Considering that this most definitely means the end of Israel, you might just as well not bother with the air defence stuff, either.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like a good plan. Ship it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Sounds like a good plan.

It was a good plan ten years ago, too. At least these days I don't get immediately banned for suggesting it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Lmao. Dooom dooooooooommmmmmm.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

How arrogant would voters have to be to vote in favor their rights while Biden is helping murder and violating human rights of brown people around the world?

Campaigning on women's rights while denying women's rights to life around the world.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, I'm sure Trump will be your man and the defender of the rights of brown people and women...lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

The difference is republicans dont pretend to care.

[–] Squirrelanna 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Because I would like to still be alive and not a second class citizen so that I can do what I can to advocate for those who still need that recognition and aid rather than backslide and have everything be universally worse. Can't rightly do that when I'm getting sent to the fucking camps too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

You are already a second class citizen to the US government. In this country you either have money or you dont. Anyone without it is treated as a second class citizen, and has no representation in government.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I feel like I keep hearing the future is stake because we can not let Trump be president, like he literally was our president for four years. This time is different because reasons? And never in any of this is dumping Biden considered sane, because why? So a en egoist wants to run despite being wild unpopular, literally stans for war crimes against a President who said (and he delivered) that we would not get into another war, “ Cmon man” as you Biden jokes say

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago

Have you been paying attention in the slightest

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Let's be real here. The man constantly talks about violating the term limits and he tried to take power by violence. Those are pretty big deal breakers.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I mean - all power to them.

But Biden and the (so-called) "Democratic" party do not deserve any of this support.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What makes you think the dems "deserving" the votes has absolutely anything to do with this? LGBQT+ people be trying to exist and you're asking them if Biden "deserves" their vote?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

What makes you think the dems “deserving” the votes has absolutely anything to do with this?

You really think the Dems are going to accept this support and think, "Gee, we should really do something to protect LGBQT+ folk, like... maybe not reaching across the aisle to the people that will gladly perpetrate mass-murder on them" huh?

If you do, I have a bridge to sell you.