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[–] [email protected] 127 points 10 months ago (2 children)

But how can you show them that you bought an overpriced shirt made by a child in Bangladesh?

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[–] [email protected] 90 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

I always make car dealers take their own sticker or badge off of any vehicle I buy. I usually offer to keep the advertising in place, in exchange for a discount, but they never take me up on it.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Funny to see this, because I haven't bought a vehicle in a long time, but I had the EXACT same thought.

I grimace every time I see that hideous "CarMax - - -" decal stuck to the actual car body.

Same with license plate frames that are like "Huge 'Dicky' Richard's Auto Circus Emporium Honda Jeep Lexus - We rub you right!"

At least those just tell me "the driver is likely lazy or can't identify a screwdriver." But an actual decal? Yeah they better take it off, and discount me if they scratch it in the process. :p

Obnoxious, man.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

"The Century of the Self" in a nutshell. 😬

[–] [email protected] 35 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The irony is that this is often true. I have always preferred shirts that have minimal advertising on them (preferably none, but a dime sized insignia is generally the best you get) but they are notably harder to find and when you do, they are more expensive. The happy medium I have found is looking for used Polo type shirts that were expensive when new, which I can generally find cheaply because collars aren't a popular look these days.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You mean blank t-shirts? Because blank t-shirts are usually a lot cheaper than ones with a logo, and most other kinds of shirts I don't usually see logos on them but maybe we shop in different places. For t-shirts I used to get them from a screen printing vendor because I liked ha ING multiple different colored shirts and they were usually around like 2-3 dollars per shirt depending on the brand

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Not bad, but I was mostly referring to brand names, generally with better fabric than just blank t shirts. I have plenty of those shirts that have Pima or other expensive fabrics that I paid $5-20 for a piece used. They are a lot more comfortable, and generally last longer.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 10 months ago

My thoughts exactly. I stopped wearing conspicuously branded products when I was in highschool for this very reason.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's why I won't wear stuff like that

Now, there's the adjacent, but not the same thing of band shirts or similar merchandise. The difference is that in theory, the band/artist is going to benefit from the purchase. It is still advertising that I'm paying for, but, because merchandise is often a big income stream for musicians in particular, I don't object to being their billboard if I like them enough to get anything of theirs in the first place.

When it's a clothing company? Hell no. If their label/logo is more than the size of a tag, I'm not doing it. I don't mind the idea of a trademark/label/tag being present, that's expected. It's when the branding becomes the design that it's a problem.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

Yeah I'm fond of the "Tshirts that make a statement" thing.

It's personal expression to say "Hey I'm really into this band and I might've gone to this concert!" Could be a conversation starter too, and it supports the band or artist like you said!

But I really don't understand people walking around with some billboard from a clothing mega-brand. You're literally paying them to do marketing work for them lol.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Look if I'm gonna wear brand stuff its gonna be linux

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Linus should be paying you for the advertising!

10% off your next Linux purchase.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think they paid me by letting me use their OS for free. Also, why not talk about something I love to use?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

why not talk about something I love

Because capitalism! Nothing has meaning unless you get a monetary value out of it!

I only write this comment because it will get me more only fans subscribers in the long run and one day I can upgrade to selling turbines.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Every so often, I am willing to pay to advertise.

I just bought a shirt with a vintage PBS logo from the 1980s, which I did not buy from PBS since they aren't selling it, but I would have paid to advertise PBS from a PBS store if they sold it with the 1980s logo.

So yeah, I pay to advertise public television- and public radio, since I really need an NPR shirt as well. We also give them money every year. And we get back really excellent journalism, so it's worth it.

Now Nike? Fuck Nike. I'd never wear their fucking swoosh.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah. I'm happy to wear shirts with logos from my favorite bands on them.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Band tees blank shirts and spray painted shirts for me.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago (11 children)

The bougie love advertising for free! You know how many yeti stickers I see on cars? It’s a fucking ice chest…

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Those Apple stickers. This was in the Bay Area but not that many people work at Apple. Even if they did, who would advertise their employer on their car??

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago

No no you should get paid to wear them

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Conspicuous consumption

In sociology and in economics, the term conspicuous consumption describes and explains the consumer practice of buying and using goods of a higher quality, price, or in greater quantity than practical. In 1899, the sociologist Thorstein Veblen coined the term conspicuous consumption to explain the spending of money on and the acquiring of luxury commodities (goods and services) specifically as a public display of economic power—the income and the accumulated wealth—of the buyer. To the conspicuous consumer, the public display of discretionary income is an economic means of either attaining or of maintaining a given social status.

This results in what may be known as Veblen goods, for which the demand increases as the price increases, in apparent contradiction of the law of demand, resulting in an upward-sloping demand curve.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The entire principle Apple is based on

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I even take the badges off my car. Nobody needs to know what brand I have.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (3 children)

ironically technically not true

one principle of marketing is the knowledge that the brand actually adds (perceived) value for many consumers, and so they are willing to pay more

[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's true that this is how most consumers act. It's dumb, but iirc it's factually correct.

If you take a brand name shirt, remove the logo in a way that is visually perfect, and sell them side-by-side, then the logo shirt will outsell the non-logo shirt. Or so I've heard.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

Absolutely. There are definitely people like OP who prefer products without branding, but for the majority (average) of consumers in many markets, the branding actually adds value.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Adidas products are also produced really cheap due to child labour. So that's another reason to make those cheaper for customers.

https://www.presseportal.de/pm/58468/5504476 (German)

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago

Spoiler alert, most stuff in the fashion industry is chocked full of human rights violations.

Climate Town on Shirts: https://youtu.be/8CkgCYPe68Q

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I admit I buy T-shirts at micro-breweries. I do support those that I actually buy. Additionally, it helps me keep record of my journey of visiting many breweries.

I've even turned some of my collection into a king sized quilt and a lap quilt. So, my shirts are very useful in more ways than one.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I used to say this a cynical teen lol I still believe it, just don’t care to talk about it anymore

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

that's why I don't like buying t-shirt with brand logos on, I feel like companies are using me as means to reach out to new customers

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And that is why, with our new triangle shaped business model, you and your customers are getting paid for wearing our shirts!

That's right! The more shirts you buy, the more you are getting paid! Just grap a couple of friends and get rich together!

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This is true to a point. Once you go past brands Ralph Lauren, Gucci, or Versace to the "real" expensive brands, they become understated again. For example, this $555 blue T-shirt

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

For that price, a tailor better come to my home, get my exact measurements, and make it specifically for me from high quality materials.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Almost all of my branded shirts were free. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

I go pretty far to my way to make sure my branded t-shirts are from small to mid-sized online content creators that I enjoy. It works out because they usually put a lot of effort into making sure their stuff is unique

[–] PenisWenisGenius 7 points 10 months ago

Pirate a shirt by buying the cheaper ad one and turning it inside out

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

'Do I get a discount if I take your free gym bag with the name of your gym'. Response is always no and a very weird stare

Also grocery bags. I pay for them, don't want you logo on it

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

Also grocery bags. I pay for them, don't want you logo on it

One alcohol bewerage chain in Russia popularized the blank black bag format in recent years, in theory - to make it less obvious you've bought booze. They are sturdy, have good handles, so overall it's a win. But since they are the most popular source of them, a blank black bag therefore automatically means booze.

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