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Legislation just signed into law has made it exceedingly to difficult to track private jet activity.

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[–] [email protected] 244 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Congress is working on issues that matter to the American people.

Like making sure the wealthy are even less accountable.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Its the Tragedy of the Commons. No single individual really has an incentive to stop flying, outside of the marginal impact on PR. So everyone just says its someone else's problem.

The FAA is toothless. The EPA is toothless. The individual industry leaders are more legally beholden to shareholders than any regulatory body. Even in aggregate, the emission volume of flights pale beside the emissions caused by coal stacks and automotive emissions and bunker fuel from bulk cargo shipping, so its the billionaire equivalent of saying "At least I'm recycling" when pushed about what you're doing to curb greenhouse gases.

At the end of the day, what we need is a comprehensive investment in high speed mass transit. But fossil fuel companies hate that. Aeronautics companies hate that. Politicians fixated on quarterly budget figures hate that. And the folks that would actually build rail in this country no longer exist.

So whatchagonna do? Shrug, blame "the system", and go with the flow because everyone else is doing it.

[–] [email protected] 158 points 10 months ago (4 children)

bill that was passed last week will allow private aircraft owners to anonymize their registration information

Private planes fly anonymously? Even if order and justice was restored to the world, we couldn’t find the next Epstein’s island.

And how will this affect drug trafficking? If you can’t trace private planes, it becomes the Wild West.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 10 months ago

You don't know? Rich people is above suspect and law

[–] [email protected] 42 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Oh, the anonymity only counts for the public. The alphabet soup guys will know.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago (2 children)

investigative reporting should exist

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago

And how will this affect drug trafficking?

Those planes will still be registered to the CIA

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago

Even if order and justice was restored to the world, we couldn’t find the next Epstein’s island.

Which is probably the whole idea.

[–] [email protected] 127 points 10 months ago (4 children)

It’s about Swift and not one of the richest people in the world who lives in the kleptocracy that passed this legislation and historically has made a big fuss over this issue?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago

He is also in the article, yes.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

As with the ticketmaster story, if you put Taylor Swift's picture on the headline it gets more clicks.

It's just that simple.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

I blind clicked hoping that wasn't the answer

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[–] [email protected] 87 points 10 months ago

Neo feudalism just checked another box against democracy.

[–] [email protected] 79 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Right, they did it for Taylor Swift.

[–] [email protected] 75 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It definitely had nothing to do with Elon Musk or Ken Griffin. Definitely not.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 10 months ago

Dammit, I guess we can't complain anymore about how much fuel they waste every day, so we are fine. Oh wait, no they are still pieces of shit.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's a big club, and we ain't in it.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (6 children)

I’ve never wanted to be in that club. In fact, I think I’m happier because I’m not.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, this will also make aviation safety analysis more difficult for us.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The plane crash we don't hear about is one we don't worry about. Good news for the aviation industry.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So if the only thing hidden is the airplanes ID seems like it would still be relatively easy to have a program sift through the data.2

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Yeah all we need is to track which private plane specifically went on the exact pattern of her tours

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago

As much as I say fuck the billionaires, they have actually already had methods of doing this for about 50 years. Only the dumb billionaires who registered the planes in their name were annoyed about the rules. They could have always registered it under a trust, like almost every other rich person private jet out there. People can still figure out the plane tail registration and track you through that, and that will never change. So the billionaires that are happy about this regulation change still have their tail numbers known by the public to be associated with them and can still be tracked. Now they just have to change their tail numbers (giant pain) and wait for people to do slightly more difficult digging to figure out what plane is theirs.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago

This is going to help bring down everyday prices, stop Genocide and will ensure another Epstein type billionaire who privately flies people to his pedophile island will receive swift Justice!

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago

So when her plane goes missing, we’ll all treat her like Amelia Earhart. She doesn’t fly her own plane though; not quite Amelia.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago

Is it "impossible" or is it "exceedingly difficult?"

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Celebrities and billionaires have long complained that it’s just way too easy for random people on the internet to monitor how much fuel exhaust they waste as they flit through the skies via their private jets.

An amendment in the Federal Aviation Administration re-authorization bill that was passed last week will allow private aircraft owners to anonymize their registration information.

Jet tracking has been made possible up until this point because private plane owners were forced to register aircraft ownership information with the FAA civil registry.

The Warzone originally reported that the new FAA reauthorization bill, which was introduced last June, will effectively make it impossible (or, at the very least, very, very hard) to track the jet activity of the well-to-do.

That’s a bummer, since in an age of environmental concerns, it’s been helpful to know which members of America’s gilded class are spewing jet fuel into the atmosphere.

Elon Musk famously threatened to sue Jack Sweeney, an undergraduate at the University of Florida, after the student made a Twitter account that tracked the billionaire’s private jet activity, ElonJet, in 2020.


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[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So congress does actually work?

[–] [email protected] 40 points 10 months ago

Of course they do, just not for you

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (9 children)

I would bet that every single person commenting here thinks of him- or herself as being deeply invested in privacy, ranting against things like ad tracking, etc. But as soon as someone (or some ones) you don't like, or have no affinity with, wants to have the same privacy afforded to every single person who drives a car, all bets are off.

Or are you suggesting that people (including the police!) should be allowed to have real time, constant information about where you drive to every day?

Just because it's a plane, and just because it's a rich person, doesn't make it any less of a privacy violation.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 10 months ago (15 children)

Sorry, but once you're so filthy rich you can own and operate a private jet, you lose the right two things:

  1. My sympathy
  2. The right to not be eaten
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[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

Aren't all commercial planes currently tracked and have their data open to the public? Why should anyone be exempt except for military?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

I think most people on Lemmy would agree that private planes simply shouldn't exist, at least on a personal use level. I don't actually care at all where these rich bozos are going, but the ability to shame them for their method of travel outweighs any potential privacy concern. Airports are public places, airplanes (were) a matter of public record. If they truly want privacy, they should find an alternative means of conveyance. If they absolutely need to travel incognito, they could just charter a plane, for Pete's sake.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

They do have the same privacy afforded to every single person who drives a car. Maybe they should stay in the car, then?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Bipartisan support for this bill but remember to vote blue no matter who 🤡

[–] [email protected] 25 points 10 months ago

You don't vote FOR people, you vote AGAINST people. That's how America is set up.

So it's more like "vote against red or your gay friends are dead"

[–] [email protected] 24 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Remember to vote for the option that doesn't lead to fascism*

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago

The other fella literally did an insurrection against the country and stole boxes of classified documents.

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