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[–] [email protected] 60 points 11 months ago (3 children)

The beginning step is convincing the poors to care more about "the economy" than their own lives.

They want the poor slaving away to keep raising corporate profits with a smile on their face.

It's why it's so concerning that Dems are doing it now too. They're literally the only thing standing between us and fascism, the problem is they won't stop jogging over to the fascists.

We need a party that actually fights the fascist, not just hang out on the other side of a velvet rope but still in the same club.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (2 children)

For them the problem with fascism is that it is poorly marketed, rather than it being abhorrent.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (7 children)

Do they have a problem with it?

From the last three elections that have featured trump, it seems like the DNC loves fascism because it lets them run terrible candidates that spent decades trying to get to be president.

It's only worked 50% of the time, and a random candidate would easily win.

So to me, it looks like the DNC was just waiting for a reason to run less popular and less progressive candidates.

trump gives them an excuse to shout down anyone that wants to hold the DNC to any standard what so ever.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

As I said, their problem isn't that fascism is bad, it's that they don't like the word, or anything that looks like 1930s fascism. For them it's a marketing problem that needs a marketing solution. How do we sell it to a country that hero-worships a generation that made war against it and first hand saw the evils it produced. Folk hate being called a fascist even if they fully support all the policies.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

No party is gonna defeat fascism. The state will not protect you. You want to fight fascists? Do it yourself. Direct action is your friend.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 11 months ago (4 children)

It's such a laughably weak veil the rich pull over people's eyes I'm surprised more folks don't figure this out.

It's sickening to watch the rich people play their game with no care in the world whilst the working families are struggling just to feed their themselves.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

The guy in the US who leaked the tax records of the rich, including Donald Trump, just got convicted to 5 years in jail.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Charles Littlejohn is a hero

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It’s such a laughably weak veil the rich pull over people’s eyes I’m surprised more folks don’t figure this out.

Its a layered veil. I've seen plenty of people take some mushy centrist "Yes, the system is broken but did you see what's happening outside of the line?! Its much worse!!!" position.

Also, lots of "I just want people to Obey The Line" rhetoric that precludes any kind of conversation about where Mr. Moneybags got the stick that draws the line from.

And of course, if you question the line or challenge the guy with all the money, you're shoved to the other side and accused of being a foreign agent.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Fear begins to vanish when we realise
That countries are just lines
Drawn in the sand with a stick

Enter Shikari - ...Meltdown

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

And similarly, from Tool's "Right In Two":

Monkey killing monkey killing monkey over
pieces of the ground
Silly monkeys
Give them thumbs, they make a club
to beat their brother down
How they've survived so misguided is a mystery
Repugnant is a creature who would squander the ability
to lift an eye to heaven, conscious of his fleeting time here

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Or Outernational's "Fighting Song:"

Look down at our planet from the heavens above

See it as it is, see it as it is

No borders or banks, no wars or tanks

No nations! No nations!

[–] [email protected] 34 points 11 months ago

Missing the fourth panel, where Moneybags shoves one of the workers over the line and announces "They hate you for your success!", while the rest of the crowd stabs the outsider with pitchforks.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Cartoon could use a "priest" as well. Spouting Prosperity Gospel to keep the rubes in line. "My friend is rich because God has chosen him to BE rich, so his wealth is proof of God's favor!"

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago

And telling all the poor people how much of a sin their envy and greed is, of course!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Biden told me the economy is doing super duper well right now

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (2 children)

"The economy" only refers to the rich and their wealth inside the castle, not at all to you or I sitting in the mud.

The economy could be absolutely booming and simultaneously the majority of the working class could be unemployed/underpaid/in debt/starving/etc. Which is exactly what is going on right now.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Yeah. I wonder if he knows how much smaller the group of people that see themselves "in the economy" is.

They are the people that will pay him so he might not notice or care but the people being helped by a stagnant ok economy doing business as usual is getting smaller by the year.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Wait till all the AI robits take er jerbs. The only thing that may make that stop is the fact that all the consumers will have starved to death. But, they will find some way to plug that gap and keep going.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

"The economy" these days is just a nickname for the rich man's game - the stocks, shares, and speculation that have nothing to do with the average person's lived experience.

The average person could be near-destitute, but because the rich man's numbers are going up, tHe EcOnOmY iS dOiNg JuSt FiNe!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Phase 4: "Build a wall over that line or the outsiders will come and take your wall building job."

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Oh no they won't! This is my damn mud puddle!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

So you're saying, hypothetical socialist nations would be justified being nationalist? Perhaps we should call it national socialism 🤔

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Obviously, but judging from the downvotes nobody enjoys political shitposting in a political memes community...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Well, the most well known of all national socialists, were not nationalists (they most definitelly weren't for all of the nation, and claimed to be for a specific race) and even less socialists.

Seems to be a general rule that party names are complete total bollocks: does anybody trully believes that the Democrats want that everybody, rich and poor, has the same amount of control over the future of their country?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

My guy I was not serious, I am both German and leftist, i am well aware of what national socialism is. I suppose I should have been more obvious. Good of you to try to educate though

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago
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