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Aid workers fear a new disaster as militia forces close in on a major Darfur city.

On a sunny April afternoon in 2006, thousands of people flocked to the National Mall in Washington, D.C., for a rally with celebrities, Olympic athletes, and rising political stars. Their cause: garner international support to halt a genocide in Sudan’s Darfur region.

“If we care, the world will care. If we act, then the world will follow,” Barack Obama, then the junior Illinois senator, told the crowd, speaking alongside future House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. That same week, then-Sen. Joe Biden introduced a bill in Congress calling on NATO to intervene to halt the genocide in Sudan. “We need to take action on both a military and diplomatic front to end the conflict,” he said.

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[–] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 66 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I mean, they’re ignoring the one in Palestine and the one in China, and even taking sides against Ukraine, so how is this any different?

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 49 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Palestine seems like 60% of what I hear about in national news and on Lemmy. Ukraine, though, no so much. People can't use it to talk shit about Biden, after all.

[–] fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee 29 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The Kremlin is pumping social media full of anti-Biden propaganda, using Israel's genocide as a wedge to split the Democratic vote so they can get Trump elected again.

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yes, 100% agree. No coincidence Netanyahu is a far right fascist and would prefer Trump himself.

[–] fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago

Yes, people act like they're going to piss off Israel's government by not voting for Biden. Bibi says thank you.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 5 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Why won't anyone think of the real victims, American liberals!

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 11 points 10 months ago

If they succeed, Palestine and Sudan and Ukraine will be every bit as fucked, but so will America with all its money and rockets.

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

that snark is not going to sound so great when abortion is banned and Israel annexes Palestine with trump's blessing. And the best part: you won't even be able to protest anything!!

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 12 points 10 months ago

People can’t use it to talk shit about Biden, after all.

No. The Kremlin and Trumpers are using it to single out Biden so people will forget them and trade Bad for Much Worse.

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 22 points 10 months ago (1 children)

ignoring the one in Palestine

???

It's impossible to go on any social media without hearing about it.

[–] NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth 19 points 10 months ago

But no one is stopping it, so they’re ignoring it

[–] Frog@lemmy.ca 44 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The United Nations has been reporting the famine and war crimes in Sudan for decades.

[–] AdamEatsAss@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I hate to say it but it's been going on for too long, most people don't care anymore. New conflicts have taken the spotlight.

[–] livus@kbin.social 19 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Doesn't really explain it, I mean the underlying Palestine/Israel thing has been going on for decades too.

The current Sudanese Civil War has only been going on for 6 months longer than the current Israel vs Gaza hostilities.

[–] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Thats an easy one, America isn't openly funding the side committing genocide and threatening to liberate anyone who doesn't like what they do back into the stone age, in Sudan.

Its really not hard to see, if you're prepared to see it.

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[–] Crack0n7uesday@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (8 children)

The Israel/Palestine thing has been going on for thousands of years, lol. Literally.

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[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 24 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The honest answer is that I can only care about so many ongoing genocides at once before I go numb towards it. And I am more invested in the one happening two countries over. And the absurdly cynical one committed by a people who had plenty of genocides happen against them over the course of history.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago (2 children)

How many concurrent genocides do we have going on right now in the world? Like four? Five? I'm not sure.

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)
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[–] livus@kbin.social 10 points 10 months ago

@victorz - The "fast"/ big obvious ones are Darfur and Gaza, but there's also probably Oromia, slow genocide in West Papua, Western Sahara, Xinjiang, and I think Nagorny-Karabakh and Tigray could start up again at some point. There is obviously a genocidal component to the Tatmadaw's activities in Myanmar but right now they seem to be getting their asses kicked by the alliance which includes ethnic minority armies.

Then there are the more obscure genocides that are mostly only mentioned outside western and english-language news media, for example the ongoing slow genocide of the Baloch people in the Balochistan region.

[–] SlothMama@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

This is literally the first time I'm hearing about it

[–] anticolonialist@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Pulls out Peter Griffin skin tone threat chart

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (4 children)

tbf they didn't care about the bosnian genocide either

They should update that meme with a list of money sources

[–] anticolonialist@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Same issue as now, a democrat was involved so it was ok to ignore.

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[–] machineLearner@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

In the US at least, our policy today doesn’t affect this genocide. Outside of Sudan, the important parties are Egypt, the UAE, and factions in Libya. Whereas in Palestine US missiles and funding to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars are directly involved, US policy today does not affect Sudan materially.

Still though, the UN and other international organs are documenting and attempting to aid. It’s just not disputed by far right fucks in our government.

[–] tsonfeir@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

We can’t even handle the genocides we have now. Someone wants another? Ffs.

[–] Pandantic@midwest.social 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Could it be our weakness to act that is encouraging more genocides?

[–] tsonfeir@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Yeah probably. But what do we do? “Vote?” “Protest?” That’s just thoughts and prayers. We have very little control over our governments in the short term and no control of—or right to control—another country. What is there?

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[–] unreasonabro@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

shouldn't that be "why is the world ignoring a looming genocide in sudan again?"

[–] fiat_lux@kbin.social 11 points 10 months ago

Looming? Sudan is past the looming stage. When do known verified atrocities reach "current reality" status?

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (5 children)

It isn't trendy and I don't get to cosplay like I care about it.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Who's going to recognize the Darfur flag when I put it in my Facebook profile?

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[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (3 children)

The world has a tendency to ignore genocides that include mostly brown people killing eachother off.

Point and case: the genocide in the old Yugoslavian block was front page news. Rwanda on the other hand barely a blip.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 15 points 10 months ago (12 children)

I was a ~12 year old child when the Rwanda genocide was happening and remember hearing about it on the news all the time

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[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Get in line behind Palestine and the Uyghurs so we can ignore you too!

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 6 points 10 months ago (3 children)
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[–] livus@kbin.social 7 points 10 months ago

Because neither side is America's aIly of course.

I went on tiktok yesterday and noticed a bunch of Gen Z mentioning Sudan and DRC as well as the Gaza Genocide. So that was better than usual.

[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Because ignoring genocides is what the world does.

[–] anas@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Because we’re all anti-semites. Every single one of us. We only care because Jews are doing it.

You’re going to get there, might as well speed it up.

[–] workerONE@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What are you talking about?

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[–] BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Sudan isn't popular because it's difficult to tie either side of the conflict to a specific political party. No one gets too many political points for speaking for/against.

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