Technology

They did something similar in Indiana. It's not a 'the cops are coming' thing. It's more about having a law that the school can reference when whiny ass parents get mad when a teacher takes a students phone away because it's disrupting class.

Good. Kids don’t need cell phones, and they really are a huge distraction.

Makes sense. They're distracting. Not sure why they were allowed in the first place.

We did this a while ago in the Netherlands and so far the research results on the effects look promising.

Take away kids ability to communicate with family and law enforcement when they get shot up.

Genius idea.

Here we are on lemmy knowing the damage that big tech has done and continues to do. Yet some of us think keeping smartphones out of school children's hands during school hours is controlling their lives?

We truly don't value teachers, we don't understand their contexts or education in general. School, especially public school is where we go to learn just not stuff from a board or a book. It's where we learn to live in a community. Hopefully a place where we can learn empathy by meeting other humans our age from similar and different walks of life. Where grow and develop, gain and also contribute. Where we have to learn to compromise because we share time and space with many human beings as opposed to say home schooling which is primarily driven by conservative religious folks.

While police and law enforcement keep getting more and more funding and support. Public education keeps getting defunded. Not enough teachers, books or supplies. Do more with less has been the norm for decades. Mirroring capitalism and paving the way for charter school factories where teachers and administrators are burned out even at higher rates.

Control over education is control over your future population. The less fully formed, the less humanist, the less critical thinking, the more centered on simply future workers, the more dystopian the future becomes.

stupid. this will generate far more work and distraction than it hopes to prevent.

While on the one hand I can agree there's a place and time to be present and participate appropriately, on the other hand it's so goddamned tiring to see politics that in situations of nuance zoom in on 'control them' as a thing everyone can rally to as if the solution of phone control was really going to be simple and accomplish its objectives.

I mean, criminalizing drugs seemed on its face to be a simple-enough thing to do, and a good idea- who could object to that, right? Who favors addiction, right? What could go wrong? Fundamentally, the ask for enough power to ban anything isn't a trivial ask, and it shouldn't be undertaken lightly.

Dumb ass American politicians don't know how to govern beyond "ban or blow up something we don't like".

Students phone usage in schools are problematic. It's not just in the classroom, but (raises hand) can i go to the bathroom (to use my phone). You can't lock down their at&t or t-mobile phones. Don't know how an outright ban would work but it's worth a shot. Education like democracy is in decline and in peril. Especially public education with the onslaught of charter schools.

They don't allow phones in actual prisons so why should schools be any different? \s

“I have seen these addictive algorithms pull in young people, literally capture them and make them prisoners in a space where they are cut off from human connection, social interaction and normal classroom activity,” she said.

literally capture them? you should be literally ejected from office.

Only question I have is is there exceptions? I know a few kids with some medical conditions like diabetes that have monitors that synch to their phone to control medication or send alerts.... Wonder how they are going to address those situations. Otherwise, I could see the benefits on a smart phone ban during school hours. I just wonder how they are going to administer that.

I am so impossibly glad I'm no longer a minor and have no plans to ever have any children. Incredible how adults wanting to control young people's lives is a phenomenon that is just not dying out.

As for bills to limit "addictive algorithms" blah blah blah: https://www.eff.org/cyberspace-independence kthxbai

This is a bad move

She is a horrible person but for this one thing I agree.

I don't mind it as long as the phones stay in the classroom in the students' view, not stored in some office outside. The latter would make the owner worry about their phone being stolen or damaged while out of sight.

I disagree. I think it should be up to the individual schools or students to make the rules, not a statewide bill

Can we just ban smartphones in general? Please?

Go back to payphones and pagers and if you need to carry information in your pocket, PDAs where you have useful non-connected apps and download information ahead of time at home and store on the device instead of using a slow, unreliable, garbage tracking device to find what you need.

Good. Go even further and bad kids from mobile phones until they're at least 15, and teach them how to responsibly use them