Obligatory what the fuck is wrong with how the US pays service people.
Tipping is for special appreciation, not basic sustenance.
this post was submitted on 01 Jun 2024
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We live in hell, that's what.
The US made it legal to pay tipped employees basically no wage (like pennies an hour). Tipping is stupid but if you don't do it the employee is basically unpaid.
I'd split the difference by just paying them based on my estimation of the time and effort they spent. The cost of the thing I bought should have no bearing. This notion that the tip should be 15/18/20% or whatever of your final bill is idiotic.
The US made it legal to pay tipped employees basically no wage
Not everywhere anymore, California made that shit illegal a year ago and it's fucking great to slap that in the face of every fucking cunt trying to clap me an asshole for not tipping 20% on an $80 bill for someone who couldn't keep my drink filled
That is awesome. Good job California
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There's a history lesson filled with sexism and racism there.
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I like how all stores even the shady ones like dollar general now want you to give money to some 'charity' at check out. Like I'm going to help them with some tax dodging scam they are running. I no longer tip anywhere I go. I don't go to the places that force a tip on you.
The peer pressure based donation for enabling corporate tax evasion is BS. It should be disallowed because all it’s doing is letting big corps not pay their due taxes
I used to think this way until someone on lemmy told me it wasn't the case. Those donations are nontaxable - it goes directly to those charities.
And you don't get the tax receipt for them
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on the one hand, tipping is toxic and enables exploitation
on the other hand, i respect the grind and understand life is hard out there for people just trying to get by
I'll usually tip 20% for delivery drivers because going literal MILES to bring me my food is objectively more daunting than crossing a room.
I always tip my pizza delivery driver, but he's also the owner of the business and the guy making the pizza, and the pizza is fucking awesome.
What does he do when multiple people order for delivery at once?
Make as many as'll fit in the oven and then deliver those. He only delivers locally and it usually takes 60 to 90 minutes to arrive, so it's better to pre-order.
Badass, sounds like it's worth the wait
local pizza joints are a t r e a s u r e .
My favorite place, i love their pasta dishes even more than their pies. THEY get the big tips!
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, i respect the grind and understand life is hard out there for people just trying to get by
Exactly, if appropriate I would tip someone even if they’re adequately paid by their employer. Though I think it would make more sense if the minimum wage is raised instead. I also get why some cultures dislike tipping, so I just treat it on a case by case basis
Fuck people that expect and pressure for tips. It’s literally optional.
Pressure your manager instead
In my experience, no one has ever pressured me for a tip. But again, that’s just me so I feel bad if you’ve experienced that
Countless times. I’ve even had a server ask me for a tip before giving me my food.
why is the customer made the butt of the joke here?
Because they took forever to add a $1 tip to the total (as they indicate by saying it takes them a while to do the math)
To add to that they gave a low ass tip
Right? If it’s grubhub or Ubereats I wouldn’t pick that customer again
Tips are bullshit anyway.
And that's the delivery driver's fault how, exactly?
That's the customer's fault how exactly?
The customer initiated the transaction under the conditions that currently exist.
the conditions that you pay for the delivery and the item you purchased, yeah. Or is there anywhere stated that tips are mandatory?
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People tip pizza guys a dollar? Man, we were tipping $5 back in the 90's. I tip $10-$12 now. The dude just drove to my house and brought me pizza, he deserves some compensation.
compensation... for doing the job he is paid to do... right.
look, if you live at the end of a long shitty dirt road, or maybe the last apartment on the top floor of a 6 story walk up - then they're going above and beyond. Hell yeah, tip more.
Tip to be nice, because times are tough and you have some extra cash.
But don't tip because someone did the bare minimum that they get paid to do anyway.
Don't tip because it's expected. Don't tip if you can't afford it.
you, by simply spending what little you have and can, are helping pay their wage already. You're doing your part. That is: don't feel guilty if you can't or don't tip.
Do feel warm and fuzzy if you can and do tip, though. it's still nice to do :)
Not that I agree with it, but in no time in the 90s did I know of pizza delivery that wasn’t tips-dependent, like restaurants in places. No gas reimbursement or anything at minimum. And this was in Canada where tip culture is dampened compared to the US.
If I can't afford to tip, then I can't afford to get delivery.
Don't they get paid by the service that decided to be in the food delivery business?
At Domino's about 7 years ago, we got paid minimum wage, plus I think a dollar per delivery item, (multiple houses on some trips when we were busy counted each order) and then tips on top. That per order bonus I think has gone up since then.
They charged the customer a $3.50 delivery fee though.
There was also a class action suit that showed that the per delivery bonus didn't cover the wear and tear and gas for the delivery, and could push the driver under minimum wage if they didn't get tips.
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They usually get paid minimum wage, and people delivering pizzas for a living typically don't have a whole lot of choices for what they do to make ends meet.
They're also likely not being fairly compensated for the wear and tear on their vehicle. Yes it should be something the worker factors in themselves, but thats not always an easy choice/option.
Agreed, people got mad at me for suggesting literally the same hah ¯_ (ツ)_/¯
Edit: in their defense, I think they objected more to the idea that a delivery person should avoid anyone who doesn’t tip. I get why they’d feel that way, it’s understandable
Gotta pay for wear and tear for one's car. It's just a business decision. Nothing personal.
Tipping culture aside, how is the US so behind the times on payment systems? Everywhere else you tap on a machine, and if tip is needed you can enter the percent or dollar amount. What is this paper signing bull shit from the 60s?
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Apple Watch’s calculator app has a convenient tip calculator on it-
Oh. Oh, it’s a joke about not wanting to pay large tips. Hah.
Because of course everybody has an Apple Watch.
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