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[–] [email protected] 53 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sorry, feeding you might make more money for the shareholders 2 years from now but not feeding you makes money for the shareholders today.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 9 months ago

I won't even be working here in 2 years, the second that bonus hits my bank account I'm taking the CEO role at a startup religion

[–] [email protected] 34 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This is heresy.

He would explain that the baker and fishermen had an inviolable right that their craftsmanship not be replicated without their permission.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago

Yeah. You wouldn't download some kid's lunch of bread and fish!

[–] [email protected] 25 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

There's a conservative chud in these comments who apparently thinks this is exactly what Jesus taught.

Political satire is dead; it's impossible to satirize conservatives because for any ridiculous joke anyone can come up with, there'll be N + 1 conservatives out there going "yeah that's exactly what I believe"

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Interestingly enough, right after feeding about 15k people, these same people tried to make Jesus their king. I mean, free food right?

And the absolute Chad just went out and retreated, refusing to involve himself in politics as he was to be already king of another kingdom

Even more interesting than that, the next day, the same people were expecting to be fed again..he clearly understood people were associating with him for material gain. He does exhort them to work for their sustenance.

But it's important to understand that at the time, Jesus was putting more focus on exhorting people to work on the pursuit of his father's kingdom and excellent deeds, declaring himself the son of god, and himself (as the word of god) living bread to be fed on

At which point most of these people lost all interest, being shocked as, as always, they suffered of literal thinking, asking themselves in disgust, "how can we eat this man's flesh?". This was the people who literally wanted him as King the day before.

This was basically all it took for everyone except the 12 apostles to leave

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Interesting take. There's the standard conservative anti-welfare message, but also very old-fashioned anti-catholicism. I guess this is from a conservative US version of Protestantism. But which denomination exactly? Or is that standard fare for evangelicals these days?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm not sure I see the anti-catholicism?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

It always comes down to transubstantiation versus consubstantiation.

-Lisa Simpson

I don't think that the whole transubstantiation issue is big for Catholics, in practice. But they are supposed to believe that during mass, bread and wine literally turn into the flesh and blood of Jesus Christ. Protestants have a slightly different take. Maybe it only becomes an issue in the context of the British domination of Ireland. I'm not sure, but at least in some Protestant/Anglican circles the Catholic belief was/is considered barbaric. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transubstantiation#Anglicanism

Maybe it's derived from 19th century Anglicanism, when there were poor houses and Famine Roads?

Side note: As a neutral person (ie atheist), I find the retelling of the "feeding of the multitude" rather dubious. The anti-welfare message isn't there. It's a common conservative talking point in the US, that government welfare makes people dependent. The thing about eating Jesus is from elsewhere. It doesn't belong in that story. The author adapted these pieces from the bible and made inserted their own teachings.

It's funny how little connection there is between scripture and actual teachings. For abortion, they bothered to change the text.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

“If I give all these starving people free food nobody will want to work anymore!” —Supply Side Jesus

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (3 children)

So I have never actually understood the name of this meme. Why "supply side"? What does that mean?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's from supply-side economics:

Supply-side economics is a macroeconomic theory postulating that economic growth can be most effectively fostered by lowering taxes, decreasing regulation, and allowing free trade.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

Supply and demand are two major parts of capitalist economic theory, Regan implimented economic relief for the supply side of the economy only. Corporations, owners, importers, and resource owners, like oil, gas, food, industries. While totally ignoring demand side, that's the working class side of the economy, if there isn't enough money in the demand side of the economy, it will eventually collapse. Which has happened several times, why are we still here and still doing this? Because were not a capitalist economy. We're a state capitalist economy. Financial institutions fail? Government bail outs, stagnating wages hurting demand? Work tax credit, still not enough money in the market? Deregulate credit lenders, payroll still can't cover basic living? SNAP program subsidized the cost of living, letting owners continue to stagnate wages while not paying enough to keep the middle class capable of participating in the market.

We've been doing this a long time.

The State now controls the economy, almost exclusively helping corporations and the very rich, with no strings attached.

Supply side only economics at work.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

It's a caricature Al Franken (who went on to become a Democrat senator) came up with for his book Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them.

You can see some of the original comics here: https://www.beliefnet.com/news/2003/09/the-gospel-of-supply-side-jesus.aspx

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (6 children)

Might want to re-read the Parable of the Talents sometime.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

yeah remember when Jesus said "if I were to feed you, it would disincentivize you from finding a job and just enable your laziness. Use your god-given talents to feed yourself you moocher" and then gave all the fish and bread to the rich?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Use your god-given talents to feed yourself you moocher" and then gave all the fish and bread to the rich?

That's literally what the Parable of the Talents is about. Matthew 25:14-30 if you are having trouble finding it.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago

Wow this Jesus guy is starting to sound like kind of a dick

In all seriousness, respect for showing up with the receipts. I don’t put much stock in the book myself, but I learned a bit more about it today.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

It's almost like I worded the end exactly like that because I know that's LiTeRaLlY what it says you utter cabbage. I was just parodying your Supply Side Jesus concept further; it's not like that was the central message that Jesus had, except in conservative readings of course

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Supply Side Jesus isn't MY concept, in fact, it was Al Franken (yes, the senator) who came up with it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lies_and_the_Lying_Liars_Who_Tell_Them

https://www.beliefnet.com/news/2003/09/the-gospel-of-supply-side-jesus.aspx

Now Franken of course is a Jew, so it's easy to see why he might have a bone to pick with Christianity.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Supply Side Jesus isn’t MY concept, in fact, it was Al Franken (yes, the senator) who came up with it.

No shit? And yes, that was sarcasm – just so you don't take that literally as well.

Now Franken of course is a Jew, so it’s easy to see why he might have a bone to pick with Christianity.

That's certainly a take.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Matthew 25:14-30

Are you seriously taking something that is called a "parable" literally? Do you need help in understanding what a parable is? The whole thing is not even about money, but about god (the master) and his stewards who shall work on spreading the gospel while Jesus is gone. Those who spread the word of god shall be rewarded and those who are resentful of god will be punished. It has nothing to do with that capitalist shit people like you interpret into it.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (18 children)

That's why 60% of Americans are living paycheck to paycheck! All they have to do is invest the pennies they have left over! Crazy how a group of people that motherfucking huge aren't just pulling themselves up by their bootstraps!

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Thomas Robert Malthus literally a cleric of Christianity who exposed these morals.

Probably the largest reason economics is completely fucked.

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