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[–] [email protected] 176 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

People, read the developers comments:

We know many of you are eager to play Ghost of Tsushima Director's Cut on handheld gaming devices like the Steam Deck. We're happy to share that the single player experience, including the Iki Island expansion, can be enjoyed on Steam Deck and similar handheld gaming PCs as we’ve worked extensively to optimize performance and deliver the best possible experience on these devices. You may notice that Steam marks the game as 'Unsupported' for Steam Deck. This is due to the Legends co-op multiplayer mode requiring Windows to access PlayStation Network integrated features. On behalf of everyone at Nixxes and Sucker Punch, we can't wait for PC players to start their adventure and fight for the freedom of Tsushima! Source: https://steamcommunity.com/games/2215430/announcements/detail/4188987871078331986

They strictly say that unfortunately it requires Windows to access PSN integrated features, so the multiplayer will not work because it requires said features. The singleplayer should work though. Since Concord is completely multiplayer, it needs the PSN features that only work on Windows.

[–] [email protected] 100 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Since Concord is completely multiplayer, it needs the PSN features that only work on Windows.

So did they code themselves into a corner because of malice or incompetence?

[–] [email protected] 56 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It is well known that many multiplayer games like Valorant do not work on Linux due to kernel anticheat. Unfortunately, this is a part of Linux gaming life.

[–] [email protected] 71 points 8 months ago

games like Valorant do not work on Linux

~~Un~~fortunately, this is a part of Linux gaming life.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 8 months ago

What a perfect excuse to not pay for it!

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago (2 children)

So are PlayStation consoles running Windows? FFS this is short sighted tying yourself to your competitor like that.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

this is only mildly better then the conclusion jump. I am almost strictly single player, but the ideology of paying full price(which is becoming increasingly common to be 70$) for a game that I won't actually be able to use all the features of... it's not very appealing to me. Granted it isn't fair of me to expect it since the company doesn't advertise it as being non-windows friendly, but it still doesn't mean I need to buy it. If they want my support, they will need to at bare minimum have it be proton/wine compatible, even if shitty support. If I can't mark that box it's a solid not buying. It's a statistics case, if there are enough people like me, companies would change.

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[–] PenisWenisGenius 73 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Fuck 'em then. I'll stop playing video games before I switch to windows, but I'm sure there will always be indie devs willing to take my money in exchange for a playable game.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Sony really doesn’t get it. Their leadership has seemed poor for a while now, I’m still annoyed they closed their Japan studio

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Out of curiosity, why are you annoyed at them closing their Japan studio? They have a ton of game credits, but were mostly a support studio. Like, technically they have credits on Bloodborne but I think everyone pretty much agrees that's a FromSoft game.

The only recent original games from them I see is Knack and Knack 2. Personally I thought they were pretty decent and are better than just a meme game, but at the same time they weren't exactly successful hits either. Is there some hit game or series I'm missing here?

And what was left of them was just merged into Team Asobi. Which I find kind of funny because Asobi was originally a team from Japan Studio that was split off.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago

Japan Studio was one of those developers that were allowed to experiment and take risks with smaller/cheaper titles for the PlayStation platform. Sony seems to be aiming at only making recognizable franchises and safe bets, kind of like how Disney is still leaning hard on Star Wars and Marvel to keep making money. This is a terrible move as they're no longer even trying to compete with the creativity and smaller budget of indie developers.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They created a lot of novel and inventive games. Shadow of the Colossus is definitely their magnum opus but it’s the small weird games they were notable for that I feel Sony is missing at this point. Astrobot getting a full game is encouraging but I think Sony needs to further step back from their carousel of third person action games.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They didn't create Shadow of the Colossus. They were a support studio for Team Ico.

Same thing for almost all of their games. The Astro series is from Team Asobi. Gravity Rush was from Team Silent/Team Gravity/Project Siren (that studio kept changing its name). Parappa the Rapper was NanaOn-Sha. Death Stranding was Kojima Productions. Patappn was from Pyramid.

LocoRoco was an original, but that series hasn't been touched since 2008. I doubt many of the original devs were even still there by 2021. Ape Escape and Legend of Dragon are similar.

Japan Studio has too many games to check them all, but all the ones that I recognize as good and memorable games are from other studios.

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 8 months ago

You won’t let us install a rootkit on your system? :-(

Well no multiplayer for you, cheater! >:-(

[–] [email protected] 63 points 8 months ago (7 children)

The lesson here is don't buy anything from Sony because you don't get what you bought. Sony is a dead company. Don't even pirate their shit. Let the corpse rot where it falls.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 8 months ago (6 children)

This is especially egregious when you remember the PS4 and PS5 operating system are themselves based on FreeBSD, meaning the original game was natively targeting a Unix-like OS to begin with. So to then say it won’t run on Linux is a huge middle finger.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 8 months ago (1 children)

At least that rootkit anti-cheat prevents all the cheaters. There totally aren't any cheaters in games protected by rootkit anti cheat systems like in valorant. Right? Riiiiiiight?

Fuck em. I'll stick with games that work on steam deck and Linux then.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Honestly anti-cheat is dead going forward because much of the new cheats being developed exist hardware powered by machine learning. Competitive multiplayer is already just a shambling corpse, but somehow people haven't caught on yet.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Good to know. I won't buy it. Yoho yoho I guess

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago

That's the simplest answer. See how awesome that card is when no one will buy it because we are fucking tired of hardware locking us on to Microsoft and closed source. Maybe 🤔 sell it to companies? LOL.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 8 months ago

this is going to do a better job of getting me to not play their game then they're helldivers 2 scandal. I'm avoiding Windows like the plague now and currently the only game I have to jump back to Windows for his Beast of Bermuda and I don't play that one all that often. There's no way in hell I'm going to even consider buying a new games that won't work on via Proton lol

[–] [email protected] 44 points 8 months ago (6 children)

Japanese companies have anything other than utter contempt and animosity for your customers challenge (impossible)

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 8 months ago (8 children)

Stop buying Playstation games, Sony have always been scummy.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Sony have always been scummy.

Never forget the literal rootkit Sony used as a "DRM" a while back lmao

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 8 months ago (6 children)

Sony already stopped selling their games in my country due to them not wanting to put Estonia in the PSN country selection list but I guess I'll pirate their games even harder or something.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Headline is misleading since it gives impression Sony is intentionally going out of their way to prevent the game from working through Proton, but this is more the case of multiplayer component not working.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago

So you are saying that I can run the game but it will show me this error if I try to start multiplayer?

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 8 months ago

Walled garden salesman nr 1, go fuck yourself sony. Gladly there are enough great games these days.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I used to pirate games because I couldn't buy them. Now I pirate games because the publishers are greedy cunts who do layoffs to appease shareholders, shutter studios that make good games, and pull all the shit Sony's pulling this year 🖕

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago (3 children)

One year Sony installed rootkits on everyone's computers.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago

Guess I won't be playing Playstation games.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago

enshittification machine go brr

wonder how much money microsoft gave them to do this

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago

Thanks sony for helping me not spend money on things I don't need.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago

"We win too much money so fuck all those gamers"

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago

What in the hell is the point of this?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago

Ar yar, ahoy and avast!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Already learned my lesson a while back. I bought Horizon Zero Dawn for the Steam Deck. Game is listed as Steam Deck Verified. Froze every time between 10-40 secs into the opening cinematic. Fortunately, Steam is awesome and gave me a refund.

Funny thing is that in searching around for a fix, I found a forum post somewhere that described exactly my problem. Started reading replies and finally realized the poster was on a PlayStation from way back when the game was first released. Good job Sony.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

One more reason for not buying

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I recognize how much of an impact Proton has had on Linux gaming to help bridge the gaps in our library, and make the platform more attractive to potential new users.

But this is exactly why I won't ever see it as a substitute for native support, because the important thing is support. If we're not supported, anything could break at any time and we'll be out of luck.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Support is kind of a catch 22. Companies have very little reason to support Linux because their customers don't use Linux, but their customers don't use Linux because companies don't support Linux.

And that's where Proton comes in to solve the catch. Proton is just a stepping stone for wider Linux adoption. The more people we get on Linux the more companies have to support Linux the less users need to depend on Proton.

I agree that native support is the way to go, but we're nowhere near having the user base to even justify native support.

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