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[–] [email protected] 75 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Brought to you by: Project2025

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

yeah not gonna be "old" days for long. they've already started laxing restrictions on several states.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

Kentucky just allowed 12 year olds to work for nonprofits 18 hours a week.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I'm sure through grit and hard work they managed to get rich in later life.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 8 months ago

the most loyal and obedient slaves are the slaves who think they're free

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

Some LinkedIn lunatic has probably used this image for their daily motivational post.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

It's likely their pain ended much sooner

[–] [email protected] 37 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The children yearn for the mines.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Mining in particular was the beginning of a lot of unionization movements. People tend to think of hisroiv mining right leaning but they were pretty hard left and pushed hard to worker rights. Mining now is much more right leaning, which is pretty unfortunate.

https://open.spotify.com/track/4abZVfTVIKhVKazN3j6ROU?si=3uUp0ERfQ2eTzXv-oFk-Eg

[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Is this back when America was great?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

These kids are draining the swamp.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Using their bare hands as shovels from what it looks like

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago

Those are some hard eyes. Seven years old going on 40.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

"The real cause of poverty is too much labor regulation!"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

"Too much labor regulation" is one of the causes of poverty. Definitely not the main one, though, and there's "too little labor regulation" somewhere as well on that list.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

Now this is pro life!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (4 children)

What has happened to their hands?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

I actually know a bit of backstory about this photo - it was a series on child labor in the south, and these are photos of oyster shuckers for the Maggioni Canning Co. around 1911.

I'm assuming shucking oysters are rough on the hands, so it could be wounds, but it also looks like crusted-on dirt, so I'm not sure.

Here's another photo where you can see their hands a bit better:

And here's the original untouched photo:

Courtesy of the Library of Congress archives

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I just wanted to add about the stares. Photos back then required the target to be very still ao they are just probably trying their best to keep still.

Most photos of children failed because they moved. These were very still, hence the tension in their eyes, or just a lucky shot. Anyways, photos from way back always look like death for this reason.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Reminds me of the grim (or beautiful, depending on how you look at it) practice of photographing the deceased, especially children, during the Victorian era. Dressed up and posed, sometimes with living family in the same photo. Part of the reason being the exact fact that they wouldn't move during the shot.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

This is a hilarious photo of they weren't in such conditions.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Thank you for the context and source! Definitely mud and dirt...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If it isn't AI (geeze have to question everything now), I would hazard a guess that it could be various injuries from textile machines or something.

It could also be just standard "major ouchies incurred as children" but grew back oddly due to lack of access to medical care.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

This image has been around a long time, it’s not AI. The girls are (IIRC) oyster shuckers. So hand injuries are gonna be a thing.

Edit: found information about the girls and the photo here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Enlightening! Thanks for taking the time and sharing what you found! I'll be sure to give that a read. Very much appreciated. :)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

Didn't even notice that at first. All I could see were the thousand-yard stares

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Unsure if AI image, or product of horrific work environment....

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

not a.i. ... check the comment from @hoch

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

We educate our youth, supposedly so they can contribute to society. In tribal life, if your father hunted he took you along and taught you how to hunt, or if your mother made baskets she taught you to make baskets. So in a weird way, child labor is just capitalisms extension to that model.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Teaching children useful survival skills in a subsistence hunter gatherer society - woke

Teaching children to operate machinery in order to make higher profits for robber baron capitalists - broke

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Oh I’m not saying it’s right. (Though the votes on that post reflect the readers’ capability of understanding nuance.) but it took steps even before we got to capitalism. Those pyramids didn’t build themselves.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Jesus, the state of those dresses. I hope those are "work" clothes, but have a very bad feeling that's their only clothes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

For late XIX'th century working class those would be their only clothes usually.

EDIT: Putting this in contrast with photos of the inhabitants of the valley my ancestors from paternal side are from (which were mostly all murdered in 1915), I can see from where all the pride about that place came and also envy of the surrounding Muslims and the particular word it was renamed into Turkish (something like "mansions"). In terms of clothes being clean and whole those photos look amazing, and many-story stone houses and such. Just not as amazing when looking at them from XXI-century city perspective.