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[–] [email protected] 106 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm not sure, but I think it makes it very unlikely he'll become president.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago

Only time will tell.

[–] [email protected] 72 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I'm a LAW AND ORDER REPUBLICAN and I'm going to vote for the CONVICTED FELON over the COP!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

Holy shit I match this caricature, and it changed my mind!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

phony trial by the crooked liberals was a political hit job

It's really easy for them to dismiss that. Once you've dismissed objective truth and logic, nothing stands in your way.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Seems good, man. Basically that makes the election:

Decision 2024: Cop vs Felon

Who will America choose?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I don't think DNC leadership appreciates the current public sentiment against law enforcement in the country. Based on her career, her would be base are the moutb breezers simping for trump

For any self respecting liberal, you just have to ignore her job. There is no good way to spin it besides, she knows how to run a shop of prosecutors lol never, just don't fucking mention it.

Bizarro fucking time line tho jfc

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I know we sometimes feel like the majority here on the fediverse, but we have to remember that most democrats don’t feel the same way about cops that the “far” left does. Most democrats are just capitalist liberals that enjoy the status quo and maybe some slightly progressive policies.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

Ehh good point... Although I think it is also generational. Boomer Democrats still pretend like they didn't know what redlining was while living in redlined communities lol

So yeah that guy will vote

[–] [email protected] 33 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I predict it brings the chance of a second Biden term to zero

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 9 months ago (7 children)

I have a quick question as someone not from the US. What is the general opinion that people have of Kamala Harris? Do people voting Democrat have an overall positive impression of her? Or are there people who could be disappointed with the choice?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 9 months ago

From the US and I pay a lot of attention to politics.

Her past is she was a bulldog in the courtroom, absolutely a firebrand and ready to take on anyone. By making her VP, her job was mostly to not make the administration look bad, which is a tough job for a firebrand so for years it felt like she was put in the back and kept quiet.

Roe v Wade decision happened, making the abortion argument on the side of the Republicans getting what they wanted, Biden is a Catholic and male so completely uncomfortable using the fact that abortion is the winning ticket item for the Dems so Harris has been beating that drum hard and getting out. GRANTED the media has been focusing on "Biden too old!" (Legit had to learn a Biden policy from BBC because American news isn't going to talk about that) so she's still feeling a relative unknown to the country at large.

There are people calling for wanting the DNC to do a vote, but we're past that marker, there's people disappointed, and then there's a lot of people excited. Right now this election is going to shape up to be more "interesting" than Bush v Gore or Trump v Hillary.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I have heard literally 0 news about her for this entire presidency. She's probably fine. Definitely better than Trump, so, ya know. Voting time

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago (2 children)

She's generally average from what I've heard amongst my friends. Not a slam dunk but not stumbling over herself. I think she'll really have to prove herself and release a strong platform to sway any voters. The good news is that a decent number of people are going to vote for her just because she's not Trump.

I suspect the real problem for some Americans will be a woman as president...which is just about how screwed America is right now.

Pretty notably she doesn't have any big skeletons in her closet (that I know of at least) that Republicans can latch on to and create drama over.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago

I’d say largely neutral. Progressives don’t love her because she was a prosecutor. She has a bit of a reputation for opportunism and lacks charisma but pretty standard democrat overall.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm in Trump country so I am relaying their opinions not my own. "Whore who slept her way to the top", "lier that is letting the border crisis happen", " hypocritic that ruined young peoples lives over pot even though she smoked it too".

Otherwise nothing burger, and besides the border debate all of the personal attacks are honestly minor compared to how Trump supporter view Trump out here (you know "he's not a good man but ...").

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

Left left looks at her time as Attornry General of California and sees her as corrupt and responsible for high incarceration rates among other general issues with the overall Democratic party platform.

libLeft sees her as solid dem if not their new prophet, though not like the right worships trump.

Center will probably see her similar to a batman police commisioner. Generally assumed good and unencumbered politically.

Right will only see gender and skin color, and not in a good way.

Vanilla to anyone not fitting neatly in those categories.

Her not being seen for the last few years is good for dems as there's nothing for the Republicans to latch onto beyond racism and mysogyny. They don't have the long developed hatred that they have for Hillary.

Realistically it's the least divisive choice the dems could make.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I wonder if Biden's stepping down was partly influenced by the assassination attempt. If he hadn't, the most prominent symbol of this election would still be that image of Trump screaming "fight" while pumping his fist against the background of the American flag. But if someone from a deserted island opened a news website today for the first time, they wouldn't even know there was an assassination attempt.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago

That's an interesting. I would put my money on him catching covid being the deciding factor.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago

As Trump has proven, people will vote for an unqualified person so you really just need a warm body.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

A ton of states are going to fight to keep Kamala Harris off the ballot.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

How? Biden wasn't the official candidate yet.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (2 children)

A lot of states have laws that don't conform to the national primary process. For instance, Ohio has a law on the books that says the official nomination has to occur by a certain date which is before the second major party convention.

It is important to know that elections are technically run at the state level with some federal oversight.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago

Nobody really knows. The situation is somewhat unprecedented.

If you’re asking for personal opinions: this was absolutely a catch-22. But I do think that it’s probably a good move in the pragmatic context of “find a way to beat the fascists”. I also think it’s hilighting some glaring flaws in our primary system that I hope will be fixed, but I don’t honestly expect to be.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

Gotta imagine there are a few more surprises in store for the convention.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Now the "vote blue no matter who" crowd will be trying to gaslight leftists into voting for a pig.

Somehow, I think that's going to be a much harder sell than even Genocide Joe was.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You've already made your determination not to vote, and no candidate seems to please you. So what are you going on about? What do you want?

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