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[–] [email protected] 171 points 8 months ago (41 children)

Fuck all imperialist and hierarchical power structures. Fuck colonialism and fuck the police. Fuck fascists and the libs that enable them.

[–] [email protected] 99 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

Xi Jinping is a fascist, and I don't think it was liberals that enabled him

[–] [email protected] 97 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (9 children)

Xi's also an imperialist and implemented a hierarchical government. Nothing I said was paradoxical. Fuck 'em all.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 8 months ago (4 children)

And by "liberal" you mean anyone who dares criticise Daddy Putin and Supreme Leader Xi, amirite?

[–] [email protected] 67 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Dude my very first sentence was "Fuck all imperialist and hierarchical power structures." How can you think that I support China or Russia?

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 8 months ago (19 children)

you're such an online edgelord that you're fighting straw men of your own creation. sign off, your family probably misses you.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 8 months ago

They clearly wrote fuck hierarchical powers. Fuck any supreme leader.

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[–] [email protected] 150 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (23 children)

These "tankies" are conservative right-wing shitbag trolls trying to convince the normal people that supporting oppression and dictators is somehow "left-wing". Do not fall for their conservative bullshit.

Just like any other conservative, every word they utter is deception or manipulation. Tankies are conservative trolls through and through.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 8 months ago (5 children)

That's a no true Scotsman argument.

There are plenty of actual tankies here. In fact, the Lemmy software is created by tankies and one of the larger Lemmy instances is run by them.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 8 months ago (4 children)

From what I've seen, there's a big divide amongst the tankies. There are those who are basically Stalin MAGA, base their political opinions on Soviet aesthetics and don't consider much the practical implications of their actions. Some simply lash out against mainstream liberal ideology and others are just trolls.

Ane the other camp is made of people who read a lot of communist philosophy and are absolutely convinced the only way to achieve an equal society is by forcing everyone into it. This has its own problems, but they at least have an internally coherent ideology.

That's not to say I agree with either camp. Their ideology promotes a vanguard party which can quickly spiral into "some are more equal than others". Absolute power corrupts absolutely and all that. But I do understand where the second camp is coming from. I think the path to a better world lies in trade unions and people coming together to defend common interests.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 8 months ago (78 children)

When they are actively censoring and banning people who make critical comments about the PRC, the USSR, or even present day Russia, I don't care where they come from.

I was banned from lemmy.ml myself for saying something about the Tiananmen Square massacre.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago

Both r/conservative and lemmy.ml are equally frightened of facts.

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[–] [email protected] 86 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Lemmy was originally built by and for tankies, so this is completely unsurprising. The .ml TLD on the original instance isn't a coincidence.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 8 months ago

Lemmygrad was literally made to be an even more mask off .ml

[–] [email protected] 29 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (14 children)

Weird they made a decentralized platform for one single group.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 8 months ago (6 children)

They made it for themselves but let us set up instances outside of their control due to their morals that software should be open for all. Again proving the best open source software comes from scratching a personal itch.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 8 months ago (5 children)

I can see the decentralized platform as a communist parallel. I don't, however, understand the fanaticism for the murdery shit show dictatorship that was Russia/China though.

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 8 months ago (8 children)

I had one of these fucks try to tell me that North Korea is very democratic.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They literally have democratic in their name!!1!1!! /s

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 8 months ago (1 children)

hexbear has entered the chat

[–] [email protected] 57 points 8 months ago (3 children)

lemmygrad

lemmy.ml too increasingly

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (8 children)

It's weird that Mao, Sun Yat Sen, and Chiang Kai Shek, were all part of the same pro-democracy party early on in China's civil war.

Mao won the war, Sun Yat Sen got out of there, Chiang Kai Shek was pushed out and became dictator of Taiwan.

China is weird.

Also weird is that one guy caused most of the deaths from famine in both the USSR and China: A conman named Trofim Lysenko, who was lying about having a new science of agriculture... He was bury seeds way further than they could handle then faking his results to keep his job.... Killed like, 30 million people who were ordered to take up his techniques.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (8 children)

Oooooh, this thread'll let my blocklist feast for days as the Tankies come out to whatabbout

Edit: Man yall are too kind! Thank you for helping me make Lemmy a more intelligent place! <3

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 8 months ago

That's the average lemmy.ml user

[–] [email protected] 37 points 8 months ago (38 children)

heck you don't even have to go that far. the second picture can be pretty much every republican president whos held office. When was the last ware we started happen while a dem president was in office?

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (14 children)

Lemmy is worse for political discussion than Reddit has ever been. At least Reddit has had the numbers for people to call out extreme views on either side, but the number of absolute nutjobs on here that either call for the downfall of capitalism immediately, or to let right-wing thinking slide as a natural progression of politics today. They're the sort of people that post memes about murdering Nazis in the streets, but would cower at the sight of one - or those that would happily march if they weren't so fucking awkward.

Some of us just want to enjoy the memes.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Imagine unironically comparing wanting the end of capitalism to fascism

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 8 months ago (3 children)

omg so true, esp on the OG Lemmy instance, where even the admins/creators of Lemmy on there are tankies.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 8 months ago (10 children)

That feeling when you get banned for mentioning Russian war crimes in Ukraine.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The pain of having to walk on eggshells just in case some admins decide to have a power mod day.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 8 months ago (14 children)

Now, I don't like violence. But even I can see that there's a difference between violence waged for imperialism and violence waged against imperialism.

And you can see the difference too. That's why Obama and Biden always say that their wars are being waged "for freedom". That's why you accept the violence of historical revolutions like the American Revolution.

The problem is, Obama and Biden are lying when they say their wars are for freedom. Their wars are for profit and control.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 8 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 26 points 8 months ago (7 children)

Still have yet to see more than a lone tankie on any thread

Plenty of people vaguely gesturing at lemmy.ml for some reason thiugh

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 8 months ago (22 children)

The folks on the top bombed the middle east, and killed a lot of people.

As someone who lives there, the choice is an easy one.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 8 months ago (19 children)

And the Soviets invaded Afghanistan with flowers and love, right??

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 8 months ago

That's only because you know nothing about the history of the others, and they gave even less of a shit back then.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Istanbul wasn’t “bombed” since Mehmet the 2nd and turkey is doing the same with the Kurds right now. So…

Edit: Holy shit. Going through your history made me want to take a shower.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (16 children)

I'd upvote the meme if it wasn't also controversial to criticize all war criminals, including both those at the top and the bottom.

Edit: For a source, see people in this thread rushing to argue and feel called out when someone criticizes "all forms of imperialism", including the Western ones.

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