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[–] Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de 81 points 8 months ago (13 children)

What first party solved the issue with PayPal? I literally want to see it burn but I don't have an alternative.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 18 points 8 months ago (1 children)

In the EU we have SEPA instant transfers

For a global solution you'd want Wise or Revolut or something. Or PayPal, but the others have features PayPal doesn't. But there are instances where PayPal wins.

But all the different banking systems are still a mess sadly.

[–] NickwithaC@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Given that banks' whole thing is transferring money you'd think they'd have got that sorted from the start but no.

[–] Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 8 months ago (2 children)

My hypothesis on this is they just don’t want to facilitate moving money out of their bank to another one. Moving money between accounts held by the same bank is usually much easier. The major US banks are for-profit businesses, after all.

Alternative hypothesis - US banks aren’t implementing new features because they’re mostly all still running on ancient IBM mainframes.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

I've heard from people in banking and in health care that regulations around transferring money and health information have not at all caught up to modern technology in the US. They're tedious and cumbersome, which means thing more more slowly and more haphazardly.

[–] Euphorazine@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

My guess is no one is willing to take on the liability. Any new system that introduces bugs or introduces attack vectors from hackers don't want to be responsible for any lost money and I'm sure banks/insurance don't want to take on the risk either.

Magnetic tape and clearing houses for the indefinite future!

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 16 points 8 months ago

Yea, this isn't US focused. A person working here from the UK told me "They tell us when we go over to expect a nice modern society with a third-world banking system. Oh, and guns."

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Korne127@lemmy.world 31 points 8 months ago (4 children)

What's better than PayPal / what issues does PayPal have? I don't know any better alternative…

[–] badcommandorfilename@lemmy.world 36 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I assume just normal credit card payments online? PayPal started because people were scared to use their card online, but now you get all the same buyer protections and insurance.

[–] woodgen@lemm.ee 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children)

How do you send money to friends or businesses with credit card? Is there a paypal card which has your login information printed on it?

[–] 0laura@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

just send them money to their bank account. it's a lot more common in Europe.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 5 points 8 months ago

I just use a bank transfer

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[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

PayPal stole my money and I'm far from the only case. Venmo is much better, but still provides fundamentally the same service

[–] 0ops@lemm.ee 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Which is weird because PayPal has owned Venmo for over a decade

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

Yep. Dunno what the difference is, but it works much better. Probably the underlying software is just better.

[–] grandkaiser@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Got bad news for you bud... Same bank.

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[–] WhatYouNeed@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

For a merchant; PayPal fees are quite high, their merchant support is abysmal and you have to be a decent size SME before you get a dedicated account manager.

And dont even get me started on their so called "merchant protection" offer for disputes.

[–] MissJinx@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

yeah I like paypal and use it a lot

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 31 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Jquery sucks now, compared to pure javascript? Now I feel old.

[–] GFGJewbacca@lemm.ee 16 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, I don't get it either. I made a store for my website a couple of years ago, and jQuery was crucial for me to handle all the events and triggers. Trying to do it in pure JavaScript looked like a complete nightmare.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 37 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Many of the things that jQuery made easy back in the day are now pretty easy with pure js (Ajax calls, improved selectors, programmatic DOM manipulation, etc), and browser support for most JS features is way more standardized.

Granted, your pure JS is likely to be way more verbose to write, making it look more intimidating than jQuery.

That being said. jQuery is performant in modern browsers, and when being delivered compressed and minified is tiny, so if you want to use it, go for it. Anybody who criticizes you or tells you “you should use [x]” for your online store or website is a JS elitist.

jQuery is really only a “bad” choice for big interactive web apps, where frameworks that handle state and routing independently of the DOM are a much better choice.

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[–] Ahardyfellow 9 points 8 months ago

I just created a new tool for my company, and I opted to leave out jQuery as I wanted to see how it would be without it.

After going through the process I don't think I'll use jQuery again unless it is already a dependancy. Vanilla pretty much has everything covered that jQuery made easier, just need to be a bit more verbose in some cases, but I've found that typically makes the code easier to read and modify.

No hate if jQuery is your thing though, just if you're on the fence I'd give vanilla a go and see if it fits your needs!

[–] _____@lemm.ee 11 points 8 months ago

jQuery is very slept on imo. I think new Gen react heads don't understand just how much you can do. Iirc the minimized size is also very small.

[–] Lumilias@pawb.social 20 points 8 months ago (1 children)

On the enterprise side, we use McAfee/Trellix and we’re pretty much glued to them for endpoint security. Why? Nobody else allows you to write custom YARA rules straight to the IPS engine like Trellix does.

Every other vendor only allows you to use rules they have defined for you and doesn’t give you that low level access. It’s frustrating because their support is dogshit too, but my company has niched itself into a corner.

[–] theotterone@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Only run as an experiment myself but Wazuh can do it apparently: https://documentation.wazuh.com/current/proof-of-concept-guide/detect-malware-yara-integration.html

MDE can do something similar but you'll need to rewrite your rules which is of course more than suboptimal.. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/defender-xdr/advanced-hunting-overview?view=o365-worldwide

[–] Lumilias@pawb.social 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Interesting, never heard of Wazuh until now. That looks closer to what Trellix allows.

The guy in charge of picking endpoint security products (whose team writes these rules) has tried Defender and found it lacking in comparison. Also, that link is about historical search for threat hunting, so I’m not sure if it’s the correct one.

Edit: I just saw the section about writing detections, but that seems to be more of a reactive than proactive approach. It still does the detection from searches.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

jQuery

We gonna ignore the crap storm that is JS frameworks, npm packages, and entire superset language to make JS half usable?

Not to mention literally everyone still uses jQuery while pretending not to.

[–] hesusingthespiritbomb@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I feel like Jquery is unfairly lumped in here.

While other solutions have eclipsed Jquery, it doesn't mean it's in any way bad. Unlike the other products here, it's still a capable library that solves the tasks it sets out to do. It never became a bloated mess or sold out to the highest bitter.

That being said I wouldn't really use it today. It doesn't play that well with modern tooling, and it is extremely easy to write anti patterns into your code. I would recommend either VanillaJS, a web component library like Svelte, or React depending on what you're trying to do.

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[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 8 points 8 months ago
[–] Waveform@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

That's why you branch out

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