Keep the protests going. Harris herself said she has to earn support, so it is on her.
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Efforts inside the convention to get a pro-Palestinian speaker on behalf of the Uncommitted Delegation appear to have been thoroughly quashed by DNC staffers. And it looks like efforts to organize outside of the convention are also being harassed and censored.
It makes me sad to see people even on lemmy so dismissive of this.
Politics has become a team sport. They only care about themselves and if their team "wins".
I want Harris to win but I also care deeply about what’s happening to the Palestinian people. It’s awful.
I understand I'll get downvoted for this but Harris said herself, as did Biden this week at the DNC that the protesters have a point, and that Harris wants a 2-state solution, ceasefire, hostages returned. Donald Trump wants Bibi to hold off and kill the ceasefire, to "finish the job".
Harris is the best route to ensuring that Palestine continues to receive US based aid as well as support for the end of the war.
It is NEVER about getting EVERYTHING or NOTHING. If you set yourself on all or nothing, you will almost always end up with nothing.
I'm voting Harris because I believe she is the best chance Palestine has right now.
Our entire government has failed to respond to the challenge of standing up to Israel and has even provided the tools for them to continue their horrific campaign against the Palestinian people. We are all complicit in what has happened and history will not be kind to us.
I also believe that Trump would be objectively worse.
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ensuring that Palestine continues to receive US based aid
lmfao
And many of these Palestine protester groups are on a team of their own, they are looking for an 'all or nothing solution' and anything else is against the team so burn it all down (many interviewed talk of destroying the whole system). Interesting how it's okay when it supports your interest, huh?
Sorry, I'm just not a fan of terrorists. That's just based on my personal experiences and world view. I hope you can see my point of view in the same way I try to see yours
Same, I'm not a fan of Israelie State terrorists killing journalists and children either.
10/7 denialism is strong here. Showing the true colors with the Nazi play book.
Who denies that? Both Hamas and the Israeli government are terrorists wanted by the ICC for crimes against humanity.
They all suck and it's the people living there that suffer the consequences.
How? They murder journalists and children, and terrorize Palestinians. It's proven. That's not a nazi conspiracy.
There wouldn't be any Palestinian terrorism if Israel would stop oppressing the Palestinians.
People are worried because of the upcoming election. We should still hold our politicians accountable, regardless. I agree.
Noooo you can't criticize my candidate it will make it harder for her to win like how people criticized Biden which made him quit and... checks notes completely turn around the election?
Huh, it's almost as if people are literally begging to vote for someone they want to vote for
I think you underestimate the political cost of not siding with Israel, but also it doesn’t mean I support what we’ve done. I think we can both agree this is a very complicated/politically nuanced situation. I understand why it’s spooked people and if just saying words in support tipped the election to Trump - because sadly we know there is no action Harris can take right now - then I get why folks wanted to play it politically safe. I don’t agree with it, I sure don’t like it, but I get why people are scared and feeling that way.
Doesn’t mean I don’t think what has happened isn’t horrific, however. And our government is complicit.
I think we can both agree this is a very complicated/politically nuanced situation
No, I don't agree with that. People have been gaslit (sorry) into thinking it's a complicated situation with no fixes when reality is very cut and dry: Colonialist forces invaded, created an ethnostate, forced the population into an open prison and are proceeding to commit genocide with full support of the freedom loving international community.
There are people who think this is inhumane and they're right to make their voices heard. It's the candidate's job to compromise with their electorate, not the other way around.
I said politically it’s complicated. I’m talking about political strategy, election strategy. That sort of thing. The point being that a pragmatic argument, which is valid in my opinion even if I disagree with it, is “Trump will be objectively worse so I have to vote against him.” For politicians it’s “ speaking out to forcefully against Israel could cost us the election which would make things even worse for the Palestinians.” Assuming their motivations are even altruistic, but either way the concern is losing the White House to Trump.
LMFAO see bro I think the exact same way, and using my critical thinking skills I used to reach that conclusion, I also deduced that the Democratic party is the only one that will even attempt to find a 2-state solution. Please, though, keep saying how terrible Kamala and the Democrats are. That’s totally the correct way to ensure Gaza exists in 10 years.
Edit: oh I recognize the ID, this is just a troll
So I'm supposed to ignore the last 60 years of unblinking support for genocide because this time they promised. Wait, they didn't even promise it, they continue to support and send weapons and shutting down discussions that would give Palestinians any rights.
But sure, the only way to stop genocide is to be complicit in genocide. Go Team Uncritical Support of the Lesser Evil
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Oh wow this guy thinks he’s the reason Biden dropped out
Nah that was when his brain leaked out of his ears on national television
as they should be. These people are simply attempting to hurt the democratic ticket. Where were they at the RNC? The fact they werent there is proof they believe the only party that’d listen is the Democrats, and if they believed that, they’d want the Democrats to win. But they don’t. So they’re, at the very least, anti-democratic. And should be ignored. Especially during the fucking DNC. Idiots
Where were they at the RNC?
How many Palestinian-Americans are registered Republican?
It appears that these protests are being championed from within the respective parties, with a large cohort of "Uncommitted" liberal voters out of the Midwest leading the charge.
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Weren't there thousands yesterday?
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