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[–] [email protected] 156 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I thought he promised that during the 2016 election?

[–] [email protected] 146 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Yes he did. Trump promises a lot of things and never delivers.

[–] [email protected] 64 points 7 months ago (1 children)

By not releasing the JFK files Trump maintained this crucial bit of leverage. That’s some 7-D parcheesi right there.

Or y’know, Trump just being a lying POS who doesn’t bother to remember the promises he makes.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago (2 children)

You fool! He's been playing N-Dimensional Yahtzee the whole time!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

He's the type to enjoy playing monopoly, but only when he gets to be the bank.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Keeps. His. Promises.*

*doesn't keep his promises

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Sure, but the demographic he's campaigning for have a tenuous grasp on reality at best, you expect them to remember something that happened in 2016? I'm sure they've already constructed some elaborate scenario in their heads about how Trump tried to reveal the truth but a Oceans 11 worthy plot by The Deep State(tm), Bill Gates, and Barack Obama conspired to prevent its release.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

That's not even 2-D Candy Land

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

It was George Soros, not Bill Gates. Please DYOR.

Now you know.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Don't worry Trump will release everything in 2 weeks, just like his healthcare plan, infrastructure plan, his taxes......

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

Not so much the Epstein files.....

[–] [email protected] 41 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I was unaware "what happened to JFK" was actually a major ask from the RFK-curious crowd. Don't they have more current conspiracy theories they want answers to?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It's RFK Jr himself that's probably asking for it. He's said in the past he knows the CIA is behind the killing of his uncle. Says the CIA had him killed because JFK didn't provide air support for bay of pigs and it pissed the CIA off. RFK claims he has proof but no one takes him serious or something.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (2 children)

He's crazy to think the CIA is behind it. The CIA handles overseas assassinations; domestic ones are the FBI's domain.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

Well in this case, JFK fired CIA Director Dulles for the Bay of Pigs debacle. You’re right about the CIA being responsible for overseas assassinations. Dulles was involved with coups and assassinations in Guatemala and Iran. However, in the case of JFK, he made an exception and facilitated a domestic assassination since the case of his firing was personal.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If there are any sealed files remaining regarding the JFK killing, then FUCKING RELEASE THEM. honestly I don't expect much from anybody. What's Trump gonna do, show a tax return or a balance sheet.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 7 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)
[–] [email protected] 34 points 7 months ago (2 children)

He asked the Harris camp for a cabinet post for his endorsement. If he helps trump become a dictator he will be Secretary of Health, I guarantee it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (4 children)

I would be very surprised if Trump honors the agreement. After the election is over RFK will already have served his purpose, and will have no leverage. Trump will claim they never had any deal and RFK will be left holding his dick.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Wasn't that what happened with Chris Christie? Kushner convinced trump to go back in any deal after the election?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

I believe so. Was promised the AG position if I remember right.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

Yeah I think that's the deal they made which is pretty low cost for Trump since he doesn't know what that secretariat does and wouldn't care if someone told him.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 7 months ago (1 children)

"Speaking at a rally in Glendale, Arizona, Trump also pledged that, if elected, he would “establish a panel of top experts” that would work with Kennedy, a prominent anti-vaccine advocate, to investigate childhood health problems."

Well if you stop vaccinations you will have a host of childhood problems, so you will never run out of things to do!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

Can't have childhood problems with no living children to have them.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I’m sure that Biden could do something really funny and just… declassify those documents.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I swear both of them have already promised and/or done this.

Edit: Yes. Biden declassified 99% just last year. (Another thing Donnie promised, that Joe actually did. Infrastructure week!) I'm sure the final 1% will finally prove every conspiracy true... /s

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I imagine experts probably advise against it because there are far reaching implications that could cause significant diplomatic or intelligence issues, domestically and internationally and that Donald "Here's Where Our Spy Satellites Are" Trump doesn't give a fuck.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

Pretty sure he’s already proved that. He’s already given information on our spies to Russia, which resulted in them getting killed.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

Some of the votes he was leeching from trump will return to trump, but not all of them.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

wonder about polling impact on swing states, i got the feeling the reminding RFK jr enthusiasts don't plan to vote for neither party, so not much change

[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Don't let RFKJR voters forget: Trump presided over creation of the Covid-19 vaccine.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

I'll feel dirty doing it, but I'll do it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

It was funny to hear Trump try to take credit for this during a rally and getting booed for it. It's like one of the few genuinely good decisions he made, but he can't even use it to campaign on.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

He cannot be removed from three, Michigan, Nevada and Wisconsin. I wonder if that many will still vote for him in those to act as much of a spoiler.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (9 children)

I am so fed up with how the DNC has treated RFK Jr. The lawfare and taking him off the ballot in swing states is unacceptable. Really thinking of voting for Trump as a wakeup call to the Democratic party.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 7 months ago (6 children)

The RNC is challenging 3rd parties on the ballots in multiple states. They also like challenging mail-in voting. https://www.reuters.com/legal/new-yorks-top-court-upholds-mail-in-voting-all-rejecting-republican-challenge-2024-08-20/

Hell Republicans are even taking voter signed Abortion ballot measures to court to get them removed from the election. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/23/us/abortion-ballot-measures-have-had-success-this-year-is-their-biggest-challenge.html

The Republican party also has a history of funding the Green party intentionally to draw Democratic voters away. https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/img-src-images-santorum1-jpg-hspace-5-vspace-5-align-left-gop-donors-funded-entire-pa-green-party-drive

You're the one that needs a wakeup call if you think that the Democrats challenging RFK Jr. is unacceptable but what the Republicans are doing is fine.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago

They're not going to read any of that. You know that, right?

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Do you really think cosplaying as MAGA brings any value to this platform or anything in general?

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago

I mean, your vote your choice but... yikes.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago

Of all the reasons to be mad at the DNC that's what you're going with? The way they treated Mr. Brainworms whose Venn Diagram between him and Trump has always been dangerously close to a circle?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

If you were a RFK voter, then you were never a concern. You wanted to vote for a guy has a freezer full of roadkill.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

You're not intelligent enough to execute this strategy.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

Woo did that guy promise something

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