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[–] [email protected] 87 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Still laughing over Obama’s subtle dick size joke about Trump

[–] [email protected] 36 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago

Obviously it was an unfortunate gesticulation accident and he realized it when it was too late /s

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 47 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It’s at the end of this short YouTube clip when he talks about crowd sizes https://youtu.be/OGMO8Hu4cBw?si=c_VccTIXw5iP-ORx

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

What's masterful about this is it can also be claimed that this was just him mocking Trump's incessant hand gesture thing he does.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Yeah, I don't think he'd have made an overt dick joke on stage at the convention. This, as you say, was masterfully done. It's just the kind of thing that I'd expect to get under trump's skin. I'd like to have been in the room when they came up with that, assuming it wasn't a brilliant improvisation.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I wish I could see Donnie’s reaction video to it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

Ketchup everywhere

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Finally, a use for these emoji hands! 🫸🏻 🫷🏻 🫸🏻🫷🏻

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago
[–] [email protected] 46 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

The trend is good, but we're still behind where we need to be. We need to keep:

  • Canvassing
  • Phone-banking
  • Fundraising & Donating
  • Talking to Family & Friends
  • Combating the trolls across social media platforms so they don't define the narrative
[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Next election, make a feature-length movie with Ryan Reynolds, release it in theaters, and collect 2x this amount.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, I can see it, Ryan Reynolds as Tim Waltz!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Who would play comic accurate tim waltz?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

An AI generated Ed Asner

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Trump would probably play himself as well, just to get back on TV.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago (8 children)

Sorry to rain on the joyful circlejerk, but please remember that truth and justice Kamala came out as solidly in line with Biden’s genocide policy book. Sorry, I like Walz too, but this is not acceptable.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Sorry to rain on your joyful grandstanding, but it's either Trump or Harris — and Harris & Biden have both expressed FAR more sympathy toward the Gazan people and trying to negotiate a permanent ceasefire than Trump.

... Meanwhile Bibi is trying to do everything he can to get Trump elected, while Trump violated the Logan Act and contacted Bibi directly to NOT take the ceasefire deal.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I’m sure Palestinians really appreciate Biden and Harris’ sympathies as they are misted by the bombs they sent over that were guided by the intelligence they provided.

All the talk about ceasefire negotiations is an intentional distraction. Israel isn’t participating in negotiations as evidenced by the fact that they assassinated the main Hamas guy running negotiations.

Claiming that opposition to Harris’ terrible policy position is somehow supportive of trump is dishonest and misleading. That attitude is a big reason why we keep electing such terrible leaders.

trumps Logan Act violations should be prosecuted, absolutely, just like Biden’s violations of the Leahy Law should be prosecuted.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

Hmmm, let's see... If I'm a Palestinian...

And I see Harris/Biden:

  • Trying to negotiate a permanent cease-fire
  • Increasingly distancing themselves from the Netanyahu administration
  • Establishing aid routes into Gaza

... And I see Trump:

  • Saying Israel "needs to finish what they started."
  • Calling Netanyahu to NOT take the Ceasefire deal (similar to how he blocked the Border Patrol endorsed border legislation)

... Then I have to take an educated guess and say that I don't think Harris or Biden are actually psychopathic narcissists who worship strong-men dictators like Trump does and I have to think that Trump will not care how many of us die... So I'd rather deal with strategic gaming of the electorate to ensure Democrats win in the next 2.5 months as opposed to risking a Trump presidency and having NO support for at least 4 years.

This "inTenTioNAl DiStrActIoN" thing is unfounded and utter speculation. What Netanyahu decides to do does NOT negate what Harris/Biden are trying to do. Be better.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Biden and Harris might be negotiating, but Israel is not. For Biden and Harris to willfully misrepresent that fact is mostly where I base my claims about negotiations being a stalling tactic.

Biden and Harris have done nothing to distance themselves from Netanyahu. If anything, Harris doubled down on her support for his administration in her DNC speech.

Aid into Gaza has been pathetically inadequate. Given that the US is the power broker in this region, it’s difficult to argue that this isn’t intentional.

trump is a monster. No argument there.

I don’t think that Biden and Harris are ‘psychopathic narcissists’. I do think that Biden is ideologically bound to supporting Israel’s racist apartheid goals. I’ve been hoping for meaningful signs that Harris is different than him, but her DNC speech was a clear attempt to align herself with his policies. So, that’s disheartening.

I agree that voting for Harris is harm reduction and that given the options, that course gives us the possibility of influence whereas the alternative prevents that. However, pressure needs to be applied to Harris or nothing will change. Pressure during the election has more efficacy than afterward. If her stance on this is actually enough to deny her the win, then she is making a huge political mistake by ‘cozying up’ to a genocide policy.

I base my ‘intentional distraction’ claim on almost a year of toothless rhetoric from Biden, preceded by decades of similar obfuscations from administration after administration.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

It may be of interest to you to read this discussion thread I had with another user here. Without too much repeating I think we're on the same side largely; but I definitely put a lot of weight on the rock-and-a-hard-place Biden/Harris is with courting different voting groups and ensuring Gazans don't have to deal with 4 years of Trump instead of 4 years of Harris. So I'm extremely cautious with only 71 days until election day to jeopardize any risk to that.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah im gonna vote for the party that hasn't been actively creating laws for the past 15 years that are trying to kill my family and friends.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

I get it. Just like you, I’ll probably vote for the party that’s been passively enabling those very same policies. That doesn’t mean people shouldn’t call out the awful positions our candidates take, or challenge constituents on the exuses they make for them.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Keeping an eye on Harris' stance on the Israel-Hamas war in Gaza, Sanders made sure to bring that up, saying, “I think, in all fairness to the vice president, she’s been the candidate for all of one month. And it’s been a hell of a month. You have to organize the convention, select a vice presidential campaign, get out on the campaign trail. So, they are still working through their policies.”

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

The issue is not complicated and she has crafted a campaign around her own moral goodness. Sanders’ expectations are far too low. In any case, she has apparently settled on policy. She settled on Biden’s policy, as she described in her big speech.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Kamala has been pretty consistent on saying that what's happening in Gaza is absolutely unacceptable and she cannot turn a blind eye to it. It's the most harsh rhetoric we've seen from people in high leadership positions.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago

Abstaining does less than nothing for the actual victims of the genocide in question. You think the dems are going to change their stance on Palestine because a bunch of leftists are withholding their votes? Most of their corporate donors are most likely either pro-Israel or don't care. They're going to decide it's a safer play for them to pivot right to try and scoop up lukewarm centrist dipshits, guaranteed. Things get worse for women, immigrants, LGBT people, and the working class in general but hey! At least your hands are clean!

The way to effect electoral change that may actually have a snowballs chance in hell of helping Palestinians is to support anti-genocide reps in primaries and local elections. Get your city to pass ordinances boycotting Israeli products, accepting Palestinian refugees, and supporting international aid organizations. Even if your good local reps can't make any of that happen, you're getting more anti-genocide policy makers in the system who may run for higher offices next cycle.

Leftist organizing has always been from the ground up. If you want an anti-genocide president (which I fucking do too!), then work on creating the infrastructure to produce one instead of stomping your feet and insisting the Overton Window move your way ex nihilo.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

but this is not acceptable.

You find that the vast majority of Americans don't care is unacceptable? Good luck changing this with that attitude.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

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