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Everyone trying to say this is normal didn't read the article.
Kick recounted of the event, “Every time we accelerated on the highway, whale juice would pour into the windows of the car, and it was the rankest thing on the planet.”
She concluded, “We all had plastic bags over our heads with mouth holes cut out, and people on the highway were giving us the finger, but that was just normal day-to-day stuff for us.”
There's nothing normal here.
What rhe fuck is happening in America. Like seriously.
This isn't America. It's just one dude with literal brain worms.
Well in any case it still is IN america
Wealth is a terminal, brain rotting illness.
It was a dead whale (and presumably rather small for a whale, although the article doesn't specify). He wanted the skull for his anatomical collection. I think this is actually pretty cool, at least because there are biologists (as opposed to politicians) who would do this sort of thing and they're cool people.
He's not a biologist, he's a lawyer. And if cutting up a whale with a chainsaw is normal day-to-day stuff in his family... that's pretty fucking weird.
It is quite weird but in a cool way. I mean, I collect teapots. He collects animal skulls. Which of us is more badass?
I don't find driving to a beach with your child to carve up a dead whale with a chainsaw (is that even legal?), bungeeing it into the car and then driving down the road with "whale juice" flooding into the car to be badass, just bad parenting.
Also, claiming to be a big environmentalist and having an animal skull collection is not the best look.
claiming to be a big environmentalist and having an animal skull collection is not the best look
Nothing wrong with it if they were collected ethically. Would you find it odd that arborists collect tree trunk slices?
Is it ethical to drive down to the beach with your kid, cut off a whale's head with a chainsaw and drive it home in your car?
I doubt it's even legal, let alone ethical.
From the article:
“Every time we accelerated on the highway, whale juice would pour into the windows of the car, and it was the rankest thing on the planet.”
It does not sound legal.
From NOAA.gov
Can you keep a protected species part found on the beach?
In some cases, yes, you may keep the part. You may collect and keep any bones, teeth, or ivory from a non-ESA listed marine mammal found on a beach or land within one-quarter mile of an ocean, bay, or estuary. You may not collect parts from a carcass or parts with soft tissues attached.
Any marine mammal bones, teeth, or ivory that you collect must be identified and registered with the nearest NOAA Fisheries Regional Office. You may contact the appropriate Stranding Network Coordinator in your region for assistance. Marine mammal parts collected in this manner may not be bought or sold.
A dead marine mammal with soft tissue is a stranded animal and you should report it to the nearest NOAA Fisheries Stranding Network Coordinator so that the animal may be sampled for scientific research purposes and properly disposed of. You may not collect parts from a stranded animal.
Parts from ESA-listed species, including threatened or endangered species, may not be collected without a permit or other authorization.
Edit: Great job by an environmental attorney...
That act in itself is ethically neutral.
Why are you implying that legality has any impact on the ethics of the situation?
That act in itself is ethically neutral.
What makes you the arbiter of what is ethical?
Why are you implying that legality has any impact on the ethics of the situation?
I'm not.
You just asked me for the answer, so in this case, you! Your second sentence does imply that you are, as the "not even X, let alone Y" implies that to reach Y you must pass X.
Please answer the question: Why is it ethically neutral to intentionally expose a child (he wasn't passing by, he found out it happened and drove there with his daughter) to such things on a day-to-day basis?
Its not my onus to answer that, that's akin to trying to prove a negative. As the one making the claim, you are supposed to try to prove it. How is exposure to a whale carcass unethical?
Because exposing children to traumatic things can cause psychological issues and watching someone carve up a whale with a chainsaw is pretty damn traumatic for a normal child.
Let me guess: "Prove that it's traumatic."
Nope, it's pointing out that you're moving goalposts.
You asked my why it was unethical. I told you. What goalpost did I move?
What makes you the arbiter of what is ethical?
Aren't you the one that asked if it was ethical? Did you not want an answer?
Sure. Why is it "ethically neutral" to expose a child to such things on a regular basis? Again, this was supposedly a day-to-day occurrence.
Although legality and ethics do not always coincide, they often influence each other. Many laws are based on ethical principles, such as the protection of human rights, wildlife, or the environment. They reflect a societal consensus that actions that violate these principles are both unethical and should be illegal.
In this case, RFK Jr. most likely violated several laws like the Marine Mammal Protection Act (MMPA) and the Endangered Species Act (ESA) which make it illegal to disturb, remove, or possess any part of a whale, even if it's dead, without a permit. This is not "normal" behavior.
You're not an ethicist, you're a mod. Forming an opinion about someone else's hobbies is...well, kinda weird.
I'm not a mod in this community.
Also, why do I have to be an ethicist to call someone's hobby a weird hobby?
Because they didn't have to move the goal posts again because you hadn't revealed yourself to be an ethicist.
Gatekeeping opinions is pretty weird Bro. Don't be that kind of weird.
No one should be forming their own opinions. That goes completely against Xi Think and is dangerous to a free society.
Mods not allowed to have opinions! Not even in the small niche corner of this already niche corner of the internet.
How does Cheryl Hines stay married to this dude?
Valuing proximity to power more than having personal morals.
I imagine by being an equally horrible human and not the character she plays on television.
My childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When I was insolent, I was placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds- pretty standard, really.
