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[–] ex_redditor@lemmy.world 69 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Reddit probably hasn’t even noticed the drop in traffic. Lemmy is a very niche site that is a peanut compared to Reddit unfortunately. I don’t see it becoming mainstream any time soon because it’s too complicated to understand for the average Joe.

This isn’t a bad thing though

[–] Cosmonaut_Collin@lemmy.world 43 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I consider myself to just be an average Joe and I don't think Lemmy is too difficult to figure out. Moreso just a getting used to. I think the majority of people are just too lazy to put in the effort to get used to a new system, even if it is better in some areas than the previous system.

[–] ex_redditor@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago (2 children)

If you are already on this site, have an account and are actively participating you are way beyond the average Joe. The average Joe will only find out about lemmy a year from now 😂

[–] Resistentialism@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

Isn't that ideal though? Surely the "above average joe's" would help, and contribute to shape the place into what it can be to reach it's full potential? It'll give the server hosters more time to fix everything up. Certainly a lot of the people already here are going to be a lot calmer in response to bugs and glitches. Whereas if everyone joined straight away, it'll just be like a massive urinal with huge amounts of stress on the servers.

[–] BackStabbath@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Exactly lol

[–] theragu40@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago

Last report I saw had traffic numbers to their ad space still down about 20%. That's definitely an amount they notice, though I'm sure they hope and believe it'll go back up.

I definitely do not think they are calling any of us back per se, but on he other hand the way spez talks is definitely like someone who is in denial about being dumped.

[–] CriticalMiss@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The only thing I find difficult with Lemmy is the political part of it such as who defederated who and so on, the technical part of it is relatively easy.

[–] sergio@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 years ago

True, but reddit has automod bots that will ban people if they participated in [bad sub] even if they never posted there, so there is an analogous defederation on reddit

[–] Trollmittens@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

As a new user is there somewhere I can understand more about this defederation stuff? I'm just picking it up as I go and trying to piece it together

[–] CriticalMiss@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I guess just follow the meta posts of the big communities.

From what I understood:

  • Nearly all the big instances defederated exploding-heads, which is one of those "we do not restrict your speech" instances (which we know is just a dogwhistle for nazis are welcomed here)
  • Beehaw defederated lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works because they didn't want the flood of July 1st users to go shitpost in their subs until better moderation tools are available.

That's all for now I guess.

[–] Ado@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

This is basically it. People are making it into a bigger deal than it is. Beehaw is specifically and purposely created as a safe space. That’s been their mission statement from the beginning. It’s incredibly easy to not make an account there if you’re not into that mission.

[–] saigot@lemmy.ca 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Reddit isn't going to die, but as they shed their core user base the platform will have less and less to contribute until the only users left are extremely boring profitable drones. Just like Facebook is today. I don't want those users, reddit does. Win-win

[–] parpol@programming.dev 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

the average Joe would download jerboa, then be in. he would browse anonymously, and eventually make an account at the instance he enjoyed the most content from. choosing instance might be complicated, but until then, as long as he is browsing, he is on the platform.

[–] BackStabbath@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The average joe probably didn't even use a third party client for Reddit and absolutely is not affected by the API changes. They're going to browse reddit as if nothing happened.

[–] parpol@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

right, but I mean in terms of difficulty for one that wants to try lemmy out. since they don't even have to choose an instance to browse, it is easy even for an average Joe. I'd say it is easier to join lemmy than for example mastodon, which also is easy in my opinion.

[–] BackStabbath@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I haven't tried Mastadon, but I get your point. But I'm sure people would be confused about the instances and stuff. When you really want to try it out, then you typically have patience and see how things work. A lot of people just simply don't care enough to try this when there was no issue with Reddit for them in the first place. I am trying to shift because I'm annoyed at Reddit, but someone who isn't really has no reason to.

[–] Resistentialism@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Is that a huge issue, though? I always had a feeling that the 3rd party users might be more civil.

[–] BackStabbath@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

No, I don't think it's an issue. Lemmy certainly doesn't need most of Reddit to migrate. But if the number of users is a lot less, there will also be much less content. For me, the ideal scenario is to have a decent numbers of users, but nowhere close to Reddit's (I'm almost totally sure that it won't actually replace Reddit for the general public but I'm just hoping for enough users to make it a nice community with enough content).

[–] Resistentialism@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah thats fair. I think k when something gets too big, then it becomes like less of a nicer place. E.g reddit. Twitter, Facebook.

[–] BackStabbath@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

That could be the case. But it can also go the other way lol, it could end up being a place where a smaller bunch of insane/bigoted/etc people get together.

[–] xenodine@mastodon.coloradocrest.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

@BackStabbath yes & no. Reddit had quite a few highly technical spaces.
We instituted an org wide blacklist of Reddit the other day, so no more redditing over here.
Now to find the fediverse equivalents to sysadmin net admin etc…

[–] BackStabbath@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Yeah, I'm not surprised that a lot of people in the technical fields used third party apps. I'm talking about the general public that would never know Lemmy exists and would be bored if I even talked for two minutes about a cool app lol (and there are plenty of them).

[–] rrdkt@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

yeah i just hope it doesn't become abandoned like all the other reddit alternatives that came before

[–] Strangian@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago

It really isn’t complicated though. If someone can understand email, they can understand Lemmy

[–] BackStabbath@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Sorry for an unrelated question, but I have a doubt about instances. If I have this username and email for lemmy.world, can I use the same username and email for another instance? When I tried creating an account with these credentials on kbin.social, it didn't work and said those values were taken.

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 years ago

You don't need to create another account, just search/click on the communities you're interested in from your own instance and subscribe to them.

[–] Resonosity@dgngrnder.com 3 points 2 years ago

Yes, you can use the same credentials on any other Lemmy instance. I've done this with 4 instances so far. There may be a chance your username is taken, but if you create accounts on the larger instances you should be good since the smaller user bases of the smaller instances probably won't mean that you'll be targeted.

[–] drifty@sopuli.xyz 44 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Is reddit really calling us back?

[–] numinous@lemmy.world 59 points 2 years ago (2 children)

True. I just got a call from the CEO of reddit a few minutes ago begging me to come back.

[–] Mabs@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago
[–] UncommonBagOfLoot@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

He promised me a publuc apology if I return. But idk, kinda sounded like a threat to me.

[–] harrybo93@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago

Nahhh it’s gotta be for the meme hasn’t it

[–] StarManta@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

Or promising to change

[–] ethikal@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Yea but he called me from Nigeria for some reason. And that I had to wire him money to get old.redddit back

[–] OtakuAltair@vlemmy.net 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It's only gonna get worse lol; they're removing old.reddit next, going after nsfw and increasing ads.

The ux is already better here within the last few weeks with clients like Memmy and Connect; Boost and Sync are gonna be awesome when they're out in a few weeks

[–] chowanana@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I would only come back if Apollo did :’(

[–] OtakuAltair@vlemmy.net 14 points 2 years ago (2 children)

wefwef and Memmy almost feel like Apollo already; it's crazy how fast they're being developed.

[–] Ado@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Been using both lately to see which I like more. And the progress from just a few weeks ago to now has been incredible

[–] chowanana@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

definitely, I’m on Memmy and I’m really liking it. still, reddit’s community is bigger so if Apollo came back I would use it to browse subs I haven’t found here yet

[–] Strangian@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

Same, thats a big part of why I left so naturally it would be a big part of coming back

[–] Lojcs@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Can we stop it with the low tier memes

[–] Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Welcome to 196. You must be new around here, low tier memes is all we've got. Enjoy your stay. :)

[–] Ausprobierer 3 points 2 years ago

I think it adds to the nostalgic old internet feel that this site already has. I like it.

[–] Lojcs@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

196 is better than popular character pointing to sign memes. And the whole act of making a meme to post here defeats the spontaneousity the rule calls for imo

[–] Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Joke's on you, I've never made a meme specifically to post here. I just post my most recent one when I visit, as per the rule. It just so happens I make a buttload of trash-tier memes.

[–] Lojcs@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago
[–] Dr_Fetus_Jackson@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

Reddit: surprised Pikachu face

[–] Nerorero@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago

The right wing shirt will kill the page

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