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[–] [email protected] 70 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

I've never heard of K1.

Should we expect MariaDB enshittification to ensure?

Strategic investment aims to accelerate MariaDB's mission to deliver innovative, scalable database solutions with new executive leadership to drive the next phase of growth

I'm not reading that as a "no" :(

[–] [email protected] 42 points 6 months ago (1 children)

MariaDB is actually two separate entities: The company MariaDB and the MariaDB organization. The company sells enterprise licenses and support, and the organization manages the actual development. So there's a little separation that will at least slow the enshittification.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Ah, good to know.

I did know there were two sides of it (we explored MariaDB Enterprise at work, but unfortunately it didn't pan out).

Any more, I just assume one company buying any other always results in a worse experience post-sale.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

MariaDB tried to go public a while back and their stock price tanked immediately and never recovered. If they hadn't gotten acquired I imagine they'd have gone out of business.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago

Exactly. And so it begins.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Hope he got another kid to name that next fork after.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

He does!

Say hello to MaxDB!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

From version 7.5 through version 7.6 onwards distribution of MaxDB (previously SAP DB) to the open source community was provided by MySQL AB, the same company that develops the open-source software database, MySQL. Development was done by SAP AG, MySQL AB and the open-source software community.

Wait, did I get his kids in the wrong order?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Unpopular opinion?: without wordpress, mysql/mariadb would have died years ago.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago

There were so many web apps written in the early 00s on the LAMP stack, including Facebook. And that's not counting the tiny internal applications that so many businesses have that use MySQL/MariaDB. Because these are business critical applications, they pay Oracle/MariaDB for support.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago
[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Hummm... Can someone tell me if this is good news or bad news?

Generally a buy-out is mostly bad news, but I can't tell here in this specific case.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

MariaDB.com is separate from MariaDB.org that does the development, so it shouldn't be too bad.

Then again, the folks working at MariaDB.com might have a different opinion.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Okay thank you :). We will see after a few years I guess?

It doesn't look like an "emergency alarm" to switch over to another database. However, I was already thinking of switching every container to postgres. Maybe that's the push needed.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Depends. Is K1 a vulture?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

If you needed a reason to switch to Postgres, there you go.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I hope this won’t have any negative effects on PostgreSQL which will hopefully not have to cater the MySQL refugees now.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I am a bit out of the loop in terms of RDBMS history, what do you mean by MySQL refugees?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

MySQL refugees = those who ran to MariaDB when MySQL was bought by 'Orrible and now need another new home. Accidentally, PostgreSQL has grown support for some of MySQL on recent versions.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Oracle is such a terrible company for their customers it makes a ton of sense to try to get them to switch to a less abusive company

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

My coworker used to work with Oracle at his last job, and he took an architect position at my company near the start of development. There's a reason we use Postgres at our org...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Some of our customers rely on Oracle’s database system, because history. Sadly, we can’t teach them.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

True, and I keep those folks in my prayers.

But if you're on MySQL it's a lot less of a lift to switch to MariaDB than it is to go to Postgres, even if Postgres is better in some ways.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

I rewrote the last remaining MySQL-based software of mine this year because I didn’t want to have MariaDB just for this one tool. Everything else had already been migrated. PostgreSQL is much faster in my tests.