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[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 104 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Having grown up in both countries, the joke here is about colonialism more than American stupidity.

The British know everywhere spices, sugar and coffee come from innately

[–] Wanderer@lemm.ee 28 points 6 months ago (7 children)

It's absolutely not.

What's Nicaragua got to do with British colonialism? It's about Americans being ignorant of other countries.

[–] irreticent@lemmy.world 30 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

What's Nicaragua got to do with British colonialism?

Well, they did colonize Nicaragua for over 200 years.

*Edit: added link

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[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Nothing specifically, but they had a hot interest in the "Americas" for a whiiiile, as did all European countries

Edit, do a quick search lol

[–] Wanderer@lemm.ee 17 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

That's the biggest stretch in the world.

The joke is about education systems. If it was about British interest overseas he would have said something like "Yes, we are English. We take a lot of interest in far away lands".

I'm not saying he wouldn't make that joke, it's a normal enough joke for Brit to make. But he is certainly joking about quality in education in this case as he mentions it. You are just imagining the world as you want it to be, not seeing it for how it is.

Let's wait for the Brits to wake up and see what their view is.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Ok, none of this matters.

You're totally freaking out about a joke they got MILDLY turned around and it's a super cool look.

"Just wait until my friends get here"

To be clear:

most of America has shit geography because most Americans never go anywhere. (It's a big country, where most citizens don't need to leave to find work or make lives)

Most of Europe (including the UK) have a much better understanding of "the colonies" because it was a huge part of their history for longer than America was a country.

I lived in Surrey from age 5-18 so I think I have a passing, but shallow view of the situation.

Edit if you actually think Britain and Nicaragua have no colonial relationship, maybe learn your geography lol

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_settlement_in_Nicaragua

[–] Wanderer@lemm.ee 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Of course none of this matters.

If you were making a joke then it was poorly constructed and I missed it. Pyrflie made the same joke but better and I laughed when I read that. Yours comes across as factually incorrect "acktually".

We seem to have a disagreement about what the joke is about and I'm willing to be proven wrong by Brits. That's all I'm saying. Short of Noel himself showing up other British people are going to know the meaning of the joke best. Until then I think you are misleading people.

Christ alive. Look jokes works because of peoples understanding of it. If you think English involvement in Nicaragua is common knowledge enough for a joke on colonialism then fucking hell you must think more of the education of the general public than me. As fair as I know American involvement in Nicaragua is way more common knowledge than English involvement there which breaks the joke.

But it is all meaningless anyway because the joke isn't about that.

This website is weird at times. Joke about American's education gets turned into a history of colonialism and the breakdown of a what makes a joke, a joke. I'm going to the pub.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The whole premise of the joke is the relative "common knowledge" of Nicaragua, or any other central/south American country. Be it to Americans or Europeans

Im not competing with any other commenter, or anyone else. It's just a fuckin life experience.

Don't make jokes if you can't take jokes

Edit further if living in the UK for a decade across the "formative" years where geography is taught doesn't count, then I'm not sure where the lesson about countries lands.

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[–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Can we agree on a bit of both?

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[–] ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works 20 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The joke is that America Bad, and you're ruining it by bringing England Bad into it. What are you, some kind of shill for America? How much is Big America paying you, bro?

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

Big America pays everyone(except our employees)!

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 70 points 6 months ago (5 children)
[–] dalekcaan@lemm.ee 18 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Man I wish they still made The Mighty Boosh. So brilliantly surreal.

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[–] satanmat@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago

Noel has no chill

[–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

While I do like him as a comedian, there are some stories about his time spent with barely of age girls and his time with Russell Brand that make him less likeable.

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[–] PumaStoleMyBluff@lemmy.world 27 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This has little to do with American vs British schooling and a lot more to do with the specific people involved. The UK has lots of comedians dumber than Noel and the US has plenty smarter than Chelsea

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[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 22 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Wow, Richmond looks so joyful there.

[–] Nasan@sopuli.xyz 5 points 6 months ago

He went from goth to boss

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Is she a right wing personality? Not remembering much about Nicaragua is a serious career booster in those quarters. They should have had Oliver North on the show. No one doesn't remember more about Nicaragua than him.

...no one is going to get this one.

[–] dessimbelackis@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

Oh I got it, but then, I wasn’t schooled in America

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago (2 children)

As someone totally ignorant about a lot of pop culture, who is that lady?

[–] Poots@mander.xyz 11 points 6 months ago (3 children)
[–] executivechimp@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 6 months ago

She's a football manager?

[–] Zozano@lemy.lol 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)
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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

Thank you. I still didn't know who she was, but I looked her up. She's clearly ignorant, but it seems like her heart is in the right place.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelsea_Handler#Political_views

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I consider myself ignorant of only about 2/3rds of pop culture and I still have no idea who any of these people are.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The two at the bottom are British comedians Noel Fielding and Julian Barratt, most famous for a very weird, partially-improvised show called The Mighty Boosh, which has quite a cult following. But I have no idea who the lady is.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 13 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Isn't the left one the goth guy from IT Crowd?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yes. He also is one of the current hosts of The Great British Bake-Off.

[–] DokPsy@infosec.pub 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Best part of the show imo. His stints on 8/10 cats are also top tier

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

There's nothing I don't like about bake-off. I hate reality shows because everyone is mean to each other... except bake-off, where everyone's friendly and nice and encouraging. It's so refreshing to see.

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[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 7 points 6 months ago (4 children)

As an American, I get surprised by US states. Like, wtf, you telling me Arkansas is a state? You mean there's a NEW Mexico? Rhode Island?

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