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[–] [email protected] 50 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Better if they just banned connected vehicles, period.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I just keep driving my non-connected vehicle. So far no one has come to take it away from me. I bet they want to though. Those greedy weasels.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Good thing cars last forever.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

1980's Toyota checking in.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

2007 Tundra representin’

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Ban cars. There are endless reasons. This is just one.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

Banning cars only makes sense at the municipal level. It's not something that will ever be completely practical at any larger scale than that, unless you just want to completely fuck over everyone who doesn't live in a big city.

It's more important to focus on building out better public transit infrastructure. More buses, more trains, more bike lanes, more options for people to avoid using cars, while still leaving that option available for where its needed.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Blind nationalism as a cover to protect our shoddy domestic garbage companies from competition.

I'd expect nothing less.

These clowns can't even be bothered to repeal the chicken tax so we can buy a Hilux. Because our domestic planned obsolescence machines cannot compete.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Don't pretend like they can be trusted. China's lack of human rights, backdoors in hardware, hostility to it's neighbors and constant hacking attempts are a problem.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago (5 children)

My Brother in Baphomet. I live in the United States of Corporate America.

We have 800 military bases all over the world and the last time we were the good guys in any war was World War Two. And only then begrudgingly. Our govt loooooooved bad mustache man.

Right this very minute. In the year two thousand and twenty four we have a BOOMING slave labor industry and half the country wants to bring back child labor.

Please. Tell me more about how terrible China is. Do go on. I hope there's a PowerPoint. Spare not 1 detail.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 6 months ago (1 children)

American shortcomings do not excuse Chinese atrocities. I'll refer you to the Ughyur, Tibetan and factory dorms people for more info.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

US hegemony has led to more human rights abuses and outright devastation than any other nation in history, and it isn't even close.

Fix your own country's bullshit before crying about anyone else's.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 months ago

No thanks. In the end, this thread is about whether the United States should blindly trust technology from China and the answer to that is no.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Two things can be true at the same time. Your argument is full of whataboutism.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago

Fuck off with that we havent been the good guys since WW2, we were in the right in Korea and in the Yugoslav conflict. Desert storm is a everyones an asshole mode, Vietnam was objectively bad, Iraq and Afghanistan were horrible, and fuck New Granada with a rusty pole.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

China is not good because America is bad.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

I don’t live in America, both America and China are fucked up places for citizens rights.

One wrong doesn’t make another right

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Oh, yeah, the US Federal Government would neeevvverrr put backdoors into things. Not ever. Not BlackBerry, or iPhone, or messaging apps, or anything...

...oh, wait.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What's your point? The Chinese government backdoored phone switches all over the world. Neither country should trust the other with vital communication or transportation infrastructure. Whataboutism does not equal trust.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

One cannot really use a universal fact shared between the two nations as a plot point.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

When it's an enemy nation yes it can be used as a point. This is also the exact same reason why China banned most things coming from the USA, and the things that make it there are very tightly controlled by China's government

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm not pro-China, but will probably sound that way here. We are all nation-states composed of arbitrary rules. We all think we are the best. We all think the others are less. We all do shitty things to our people. We also need each other to survive. It's a clusterfuck that needs a fix. Xenophobia is never the answer.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

It's not about xenophobism, it's about not relying on a nation that could have the incentive to flip the switch in a few years when they think it's convenient for them. The US gov sees all the shiny and cheap stuff coming from China as trojan horses

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

That’s not nationalism? It’s national security.

Just imagine when China tries to invade Taiwan and turns off the controls for 30% of the cars on the highway as part of their first strike on the US.

Make no mistake China is already deep inside many systems and has been probing for all sorts of attacks against critical infrastructure. There is zero doubt they would exploit their cars as well.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Cool.

Is that anything at all like a Starter Interrupter? Google it if you don't recognize the term.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Just going to jump in to say that I would love to be able to own a Hilux.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Here I was talking to my FBI agent while in drive, turns out my Chinese monitoring agent has been getting neglected... I hate what governments have done with technology. Back to the pre digital age with them!