He is such a fucking scumbag. Fuck him and fuck the rest of Israel.
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Fuck the USA, and every country too chicken shit to oppose a criminally corrupt sociopath committing war crimes to delay his own imminent corruption trial and imprisonment.
Fuck the USA government, you mean. I only live here, and all I get to do is choose between the lesser of two evils every 4 years. What a nightmare.
If you think you only get a choice once every four years, that's part of the problem. There's elections every single year, many of which you have more choice and more power over.
Maybe if people showed up to vote more than once every four years we'd actually see some effective change.
The US election system is set up for the rich and powerful to stay in charge. It's ridiculous that there's effectively only two parties, and it's ridiculous that a single person, the president, holds so much power. No accountability. Their system needs an entire overhaul, IMO:
Compulsory voting Ease of access for voting Preferential voting Lower bar for running, meaning every citizen has the opportunity to run
The US election system is set up for the rich and powerful to stay in charge. It’s ridiculous that there’s effectively only two parties, and it’s ridiculous that a single person, the president, holds so much power. No accountability. Their system needs an entire overhaul, IMO:
so then go and push/vote for voting reform, federally and more importantly at a state level, shit like IRV is very much within reach.
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Well yeah, obviously. If you blamed the entire population for its governments actions then every human alive is guilty.
Fuck the US government, and everyone who supports their crimes.
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Looking at the protests against him in Israel I think many if not most Israelis don't want this campaign of violence. For many years I've felt sorry for all the civilians in that area, because they are trying to live their lives and extremist assholes on all sides keep killing them.
including scores of women and children
This always assumes that there are no civilian men. I get that men are the ones usually conscripted, but... that's always seemed weird to me.
It makes for a more defensible argument. No sane person is going to argue that a 4 year old child is an enemy combatant. But a 20 year old male? It's easy to argue they could have been an enemy combatant and so maybe the numbers are inflated. Saying 1000 people can be interpreted as 999 enemies and only 1 civilian casualty. Saying 1000 women and children is usually interpreted as 1000 innocent lives lost.
Yeah, that's true, but super fucked that women get the innocence of children and men are assumed to be not innocent in any situation.
Life is harsh when you're a guy.
Given the Israeli position on military rape, it's just a different flavor of attrocity.
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But a 20 year old male? It’s easy to argue they could have been an enemy combatan
The age old problem of "excess males" solved by declaring open season on anyone with facial hair.
In Gaza casualty numbers any adult man is assumed to be a combatant by Isreal.
And a child is assumed to be a future combatant.
And woman a combatant factory?
They’ll probably start calling grains of sand terrorists.
Anyone past puberty actually.
Call to emotion, nothing else. Women and children "sounds" worse than "people" dying.
I mean, a score is 20. I think that means they've killed two thousand scores of people. "Scores of women and children" doesn't really do that justice.
If he is still able to speak and be heard, then they arent loud enough. Every single person in that room needs to be screaming to demand his immediate arrest.
Good point, them leaving says I don’t want to be involved not that I want to stop the injustice.
It's the only way they can express their revulsion at Israel, and the US who constantly block anything else they might try
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Cool. Now do something that stops him. Going for a coffee won't save lives.
The UN is a forum for dialogue. Expecting the UN to do something other than either say stuff or help by mandate supported by countries just shows you don't understand what their purpose is.
Walking out in this case sends the message. If these countries want to do something about it they can, other countries might intervene on Israëls behalf. The UN provides a forum to discuss this kind of stuff. So countries don't end up in wars they did not want.
If these countries want to do something about it they can
Yes, but they don't. They go grab a coffee. Look, I know many countries are very vocal about their disagreement. I'm just so pissed there are still others (mine included) that seem to be absolutely blind to any of the atrocities and respond with neverending loyalty. In my county I even understand that to a degree, but still I'm beyond pissed. Accepting the genocide your ancestors caused and the moral consequences of it shouldn't result in accepting another one driven by former victims. What Israel does is vile and unacceptable. And I say Israel, not the Israelis or 'the Jews', because I'm not a complete idiot. But there are people who might use the antisemite card on this. Maybe because they are complete idiots, or because they are off the same ideals and moral as the Nazis. And this behavior sickens me.
Well yes, the risk that is present is that if countries where to openly intervene and wage war against Israël, the US would intervene on the side of Israel.
Talking in the UN allows them to weigh their options, which allows them to make more informed decisions. Regardless of the subject matter at hand.
I'm not talking about war with Israel. But condemning them. Stopping trade. Calling in diplomats. There's a lot of granularity between peace and war.
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Only the US (or Israel's Arab allies bought by the US) can do that and yeah.
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Cool, but did you stop giving money and weapons yet? No? Then your statement is as effective as "thoughts and prayers."
The UN definitely has its problems but I'm not going to blame UN global representatives for the US paving the unilateral support for the genocidal terrorist nation state of Israel.
The UN does not supply arms to Israel. The UN has passed many resolutions condemning Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians, going back decades. They have literally already done everything the UN can do, many times over. They weren’t a governing body with binding powers over where the US sends arms, or who France chooses to support.
So I’d have to say that your comment is less effective than their walkout, because it isn’t even properly informed.
why isn't he arrested already? I wish I had similar privileges, where I could break laws (thst don't violate human rights ofc.), make a shitload of money and travel the world freely.
Now if they would actually take action.
Don't worry, they'll pass another strongly worded resolution.
Which the USA will find a way to veto or Israel will continue to ignore it.
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We've always been good at walking away, closing our ears, turning a blind eye…
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