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[–] [email protected] 113 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (8 children)

Why not Actual Budget, which is also self-hosted, open-source bucket budgeting based off YNAB, however it appears to be a lot more mature.

They also transparently run the project on Open Collective which I like: https://opencollective.com/actual

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

This is exactly the thing I've been looking for. It saves everything as a sqlite db, and has csv export options. So you're not fucked over if you need to switch to something else. It's compatible for linux/windows.

And the import options seem pretty good too.

Congrats, you've made me spend the whole day switching everything over to that lol.

The only real issue is that one of my banks deals with more than one type of currency. So I've had to write a custom script to handle that. But all in all, this is a massive upgrade for me. Thank you for this recommendation.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Ooh, this looks great... thanks for sharing! Maybe it will finally rip my excel spreadsheets from out of my hands 😂

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Net worth and investment tracking goes in my spreadsheets, budgeting in Actual Budget.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It’s good to have other options. I wish the best to the project. I started using Actual yesterday. It’s amazing . It feels good not having to forcibly pay and have a good product community driven.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

Thx a lot, was looking for a replacement for YNAB4 and this looks great!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I’m guessing because this one is open. There are very few self hosted budgeting tools, and a lot of desktop ones. If I’m going through the trouble of self hosting one, it better be open source. I don’t want to get stuck with all my financial data in an app I don’t want to pay anymore or worse, goes out of business.

If the open self hosted app doesn’t suit me, there’s GnuCash. A bit of a learning curve and less sexy, but it’s solid and got my finances stable through college.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 6 months ago (2 children)

You're replying to my comment about Actual Budget, the very open source budgeting solution?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I did look in the link you provided earlier and all I saw was pricing and features. Nothing wrong with an open project selling services, of course. But can you really blame me?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

all I saw was pricing [...] can you really blame me?

I mean I really can. They don't have any paid option so you definitely didn't see any pricing. They only have a big open source message:

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I don’t know where you got that, but this is what I get clicking that first link you posted:

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Try clicking either of those links.

Regardless, this is a thread about self-hosted open-source budgeting, which is why I linked to Actual Budget. I have updated the first post to be the Github link instead to prevent confusion.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Why would I do that to try to find the source code?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

If I’m going through the trouble of self hosting one, it better be open source.

I mean................

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What is your point exactly?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

That someone trying to find the source code wouldn’t look for it under “Pricing”.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Actualbudget.com =/= actualbudget.org

Originally the project was a closed source budgeting app to compete against YNAB on privacy and cost but the developer got overwhelmed and decided to open source the project.

I can’t remember all the details why the project doesn’t have access to the .com domain still, but you can use the .org site to see the details/source code. (You can also see the .com address hasn’t been updated, and still has the original 2020 copyright date)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

Yeah I think he just shared the .com domain and wasn’t thinking about it/aware which is why he edited his comment and just linked to the GitHub page.

It’s really annoying, because the .com address is the top result on Google too when you search for Actual Budget.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Oh, you edited your link from https://actualbudget.com/ to their GitHub, huh? You cheating cheater who cheats. I would track down the log on lemmy but you ain’t worth the effort.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I highlighted two links in the image and you asked me to click either of those. In no point in your linked message you said you edited your original message. I’m done with you, you can’t operate under honest discourse.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

You jumped to a conclusion on pricing and made a mistake, it's ok, no big deal.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

While it used to be closed source the maintainer a couple years back decided to not make it a job, and open sourced, took down the hosted option, and nowaintains it as a side project open sourced.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Dark Reader solves that problem

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Or, https://www.firefly-iii.org/, a full self-hosted system similar to Mint.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Actual doesn't support multiple user accounts.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I'll check it out! I have been using Firefly III.

I think it's good there are several projects that try to solve similar problems. It makes for such a diverse solution pool.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Do you know any that connect to Plaid to get transaction data from my banks?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

Oh, I need this thread. I've been all over the place ever since Mint shut down.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Why self host a web app that could have easily just been a regular progam.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Control over your own data (if you mean regular program as cloud apps), or accessible on multiple devices and to different users if you mean an offline computer app

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Different devices can be done with any program by putting the files on network storage.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

hosting the db in a network storage? That's self hosting with extra steps.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

But i don't have to run yet another service on my machine.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Then don't. Use only when you need it, or use literally any other free offering there is. This is not for you.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Well yeah, assuming you can install it on all devices you would want to use, and that it lets you use network storage, and that the app doesn't conflict with other apps using the same network storage. A lot of apps don't have a specific app for Android, Apple, Linux, macos, and windows because that's a lot to build and maintain. A deployed webapp works on any device with a browser, and you don't need to configure every device to use the same networked storage.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Not nearly good enough to make me give up Quicken but it is nice to see some more self hosted options popping up.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

What's bucket budgeting?

Edit: [sigh] all I needed to do was search the term... sorry everyone

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Probably some scientific theory on not letting s3 buckets eat all your money /jk

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Ha! As far as theories go, this one will remain just a theory hahaha