Someday we’ll learn that GitHub just isn’t the place for this kind of stuff…
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What is the alternative?
Closed source "I swear this executable that will let you play all the games you want is legit" hosted on sourceforge or random websites that get hugged to death every day that ends in a y?
Also: it isn't like that would stop this kind of legal action. MS/Github are barely a factor. It is the devs themselves getting the "hey, stop it or we'll turn you into indentured servants" letters.
I agree with your second paragraph, but you do know there are plenty of good alternatives to Github right?
And they change nothing? It still boils down to human beings being liable.
GitFlic in Russia. Good luck telling them to get rid of something
It's where Bypass paywall clean browser extension went after the DMCA bullshut
GitHub has nothing to do with this. All the information we have is that the dev himself took everything down after an agreement with Nintendo.
In the meantime, anyone got a backup of the sourcecode & the binaries for win/linux?
When it was clear Yuzu was on its way out, I took out a backup and saved it in my personal server to share around with friends who asked, but Ryujinx disappeared without an announcement, so I didn't get a chance to do that.
EDIT: Managed to find a backup of the source from just a few hours ago and save it to my own server. Guess I'll have to compile it on my own if I want to share binaries with people who ask :P
What was the final build? I have 1.1.1402 on my PC.
I think you might have the latest. The flatpak version that is currently on my machine is 1.1.1397 -- But the source I just grabbed and didn't build is more recent.
EDIT: The flathub build is still up -- For now. I pulled the latest update from there. It was 1.1.1403
Thanks, i git cloned from here as a backup.
For anyone looking, someone Archive.org'd the final Win x64 compiled version:
So an alternative will pop up right? At this point pirating nintendo games is a moral obligation
There are only so many programmers who are good enough to create an emulator, and a lot of them are already doing other projects. The Switch is also a very complicated system, and it needs a small team to pull it off.
The agreement: You agree to take it down and we agree not to take your house and 30% of your salary until you die.
I'm not so sure. It's possible Nintendo opted for a carrot rather than a stick in this case.
This doesn't seem to have been started with a public C&D letter like usual. Yuzu (the previous Switch emulator that was taken down) incorporated some proprietary Nintendo information, which is why Nintendo had a legal lever against them. They don't have one in this case, yet it still came down. Plus, everything seems to be have been going on very quiet behind the scenes.
If you were an emulator writer and Nintendo came and offered you life changing money in exchange for ending the project, would you take it? I would have a very hard time turning that down. Nintendo also doesn't want a flood of yokels trying to start the project up again hoping to receive the same offer; most would fail, but one or two might take off. Better to let the threat be implied.
This is just speculation, of course, but something about the way this has unfolded feels a little different.
"Agreement" is quite a fucking twist on "threat."
Goddammit!
Why won't Nintendo just FUCK. OFF. with this crusade of theirs??!!
^(And^ ^before^ ^anyone^ ^mentions^ ^it,^ ^yes,^ ^I'm^ ^aware^ ^as^ ^to^ ^why^ ^they^ ^don't.^ ^The^ ^question^ ^was^ ^rhetorical.)^
A federated github might solve this right?
Nope.
C&Ds and legal threats still go to a person who isn't going to go to jail or have their wages garnished by Mario until the end of their days.
At best you have a single gitlab instance running in a country that is known to not cooperate with those kinds of demands. But... just ask the various torrent sites how well that works after actively pissing off an army of lawyers who don't mind slipping a hosting company a couple hundred bucks to get the identity and address of the person paying for that.
Hosting a git instance with Njala?
C&Ds and legal threats still go to a person who isn’t going to go to jail or have their wages garnished by Mario until the end of their days.
At best you have a single gitlab instance running in a country that is known to not cooperate with those kinds of demands. But… just ask the various torrent sites how well that works after actively pissing off an army of lawyers who don’t mind slipping a hosting company a couple hundred bucks to get the identity and address of the person paying for that.
Plenty of hosts and providers over the years have claimed to be super privacy oriented and blah blah blah. Once they get a legal request, they roll over. Because they aren't going to prison for the customer anymore than they are going to prison for you.
kyun.host is mullvad-like insofar as your account is identified by a random account ID and they dont necessarily have an email etc on you (you can provide one so they can contact you if you want but that's optional). Have not used their services myself but I'm aware of them.
Hosting costs money. Theoretically (some) cryptocurrency can obfuscate that but... there is a reason graph problems got really popular again for a little bit.
But domain names also cost money. They also need to be registered to a person/company.
That is why a lot of torrent sites end up getting their domain stolen.
Also, all of this ignores the actual developers. But that is par for the course when it comes to discussing liability with open source projects.
I am not super knowledgeable about crypto but I thought Monero was untraceable? All the privacy-focused services I've seen allow you to pay by Monero. A few accept cash by envelope too.
The problem is that people tend to mistake being private to being above the law. You can argue against what law enforcement decides is a crime, but that matters little to service and providers and it's a another type of discussion
Yeah. It is why I really like that Proton basically say "We will turn on you in an instant if we get a legal order. But here is what we'll actually turn over and here is how you can minimize your vulnerability to that.
No, but a gitea/forgejo instance as a hidden service might.
One of yuzu's forks went that path: http://vub63vv26q6v27xzv2dtcd25xumubshogm67yrpaz2rculqxs7jlfqad.onion/torzu-emu/torzu
NOT publish releases
Well there goes that one for most people
they don't have to be the ones publishing releases
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If we keep using the current version and it never gets any updates, will it keep running the whole Switch game library.
Mostly, probably.
I would expect the legal teams to slow down once the switch becomes obsolete. (Like the SNES, GCN, etc.) At that point some other group will take up the mantle and patch whatever is broken.
... That's my guess.
Nintendo's real intent is doubtless to try and ensure that nobody ever makes a functional emulator for the upcoming Switch 2.
Good fucking luck, the hardware will likely be a 2022 tablet if the switch is anything to go off of. Considering as well the console will likely have similar architecture, and switch emulators already exist, I'd give it about 3 months.
they probably would have been fine if they weren't shown as being used to play the leaked echos of wisdom....
Don't think so, one day it would be shutdowned by Nintendo
Fuck
Damn, I just got a mac and it has replaced my switch thanks to this brilliant software
seems like there have been multiple contributors. so many clones of the repo....
Need to do something! As for YouTube and ad-blockers