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Google is weakening ad blockers as part of their MV3 extension standard and this will trickle down into all Chromium browsers. Built in ad blockers lack features compared to uBlock Origin as well.

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[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 197 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 6 months ago

Dammit, Sam. 🤦🏽‍♂️

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 99 points 6 months ago

Who is the Lemmy user not aware of this? Show yourself!

[–] JTskulk@lemmy.world 76 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Google is not killing uBlock Origin. It's changing how Chrome works. uBlock Origin will continue to work in my Firefox and other browsers.

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 58 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They're changing how chrome works... ...in a way that just coincidentally makes ad blockers a lot less functional.

They're an advertising company, no conflict of interest there at all

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[–] kautau@lemmy.world 27 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This is a shit take. Manifest v3 is like activex. As of right now, it shuts down extensions they don’t want. Going forward, it sets up a system for extensions that are publisher-approved. When internet explorer took over the market I could still use Netscape until I couldn’t. I’m hoping Firefox doesn’t reach the same end

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[–] BonerMan@ani.social 68 points 6 months ago (2 children)

LMAO welcome to Firefox, the objectively better Browser. Might also use a custom search engine or DDG while at it.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Why the LMAO?

Firefox was and still is recently vulnerable to a massive zero day:

https://www.darkreading.com/cyberattacks-data-breaches/critical-mozilla-firefox-zero-day-code-execution

Mozilla is now using users for their new AI focus.

We need to support continuous competition in the browser market through enhanced support and integration of W3C standards. And at the most important, decoupling corporations from the browsers. At the moment, it seems Google is being actively defensive (see manifest v3) against that while Firefox (Mozilla corporate) is just sort of moot on the issue, more concerned with AI.

As soon as you think it’s “us vs them” and your browser is also owned by a for profit company, we’ve lost

[–] BonerMan@ani.social 39 points 6 months ago

There are Firefox forks like LibreWolf if you need to be a crybaby about Mozilla being a company that needs to pay their developers with the most user friendly way possible...

Also their AI is more of a play thing for some of their developers, they need to go with the flow at least a bit. Its also opt in where i am, idk if thats the case everywhere, but if not its opt out.

Furthermore, from your own article:

Mozilla has patched a critical security vulnerability in its Firefox Web browser that's being actively exploited in the wild

Oh noooo they patched it.

Keep being a crybaby and use Opera, for all i care you can even install yourself red star OS.

[–] muelltonne@feddit.org 24 points 6 months ago

Still better than Chrome. Mozilla is not perfect, but in comparison to Google and its behavior they are saints.

[–] Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 6 months ago

was and still is

Me when I lie.

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 9 points 6 months ago (6 children)

Unfortunately, firefox is becoming just as bad as chrome.

[–] BonerMan@ani.social 15 points 6 months ago (2 children)
[–] babybus@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Mozilla is now focusing on the advertising business.

[–] BonerMan@ani.social 23 points 6 months ago (1 children)

To reduce reliance on Google... With the goal to change how advertising works, less annoying, less asshole ads would benefit everyone.

[–] babybus@sh.itjust.works 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

It's not my browser's job to report to advertisers, period.

[–] BonerMan@ani.social 10 points 6 months ago (8 children)

Its not doing that, you can use a fork if you want, or, and that would be the important part, put a condom over your internet cable before it enters the router, safety first.

[–] babybus@sh.itjust.works 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Why are you talking about things you don't fully understand?

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[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Mozilla is mostly funded by google. With the current cookie laws from the eu to try and stop user tracking, they developed a new solution together.

Both chrome and firefox analyze your behaviour on your pc/phone/device. Then instead of giving websites the right ads, your browser tells every website you visit (with such ads) about you. You can google "privacy sandbox" if you'd like to know more.

So you better not be gay in a place like iraq, and be in need of using your school's website on a personal computer.

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[–] vanontom@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Unfortunately, your statement probably only deserves bothsides.jxl. Please attempt to honestly and objectively compare things, despite the personal inconvenience.

They make mistakes, but Firefox and Mozilla are obviously nowhere near as fucked up as Chrome and Google by any measure. And Firefox would only improve if people stopped running back to Chrome when something was not perfect.

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[–] andri@lemmy.world 49 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Firefox and its other forks are the best option right now

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 21 points 5 months ago

Has been for as long as I can remember.

[–] card797@champserver.net 45 points 5 months ago (14 children)

Duh, Firefox. This is not a problem.

[–] sanguinepar@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (12 children)

I've recently switched to FF as my main browser, but I still need Chrome for some work things. And some people will want to stay on Chrome. So for them, this IS a problem.

Just dismissing it because other browsers exist isn't helpful.

[–] srecko@lemm.ee 13 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Yes it is. It's not some unobtainable solution like you need to give 1/10 of your pay or giving away your freedom. It's easy, free and almost painless solution that will solve your problems. You can't try to cure your lung cancer and continue smoking.

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[–] orangeboats@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Usually I sympathize with sentiments like this ("people use X because of uncontrolled circumstances"), but browsers are not one of them.

If you have a website that requires the use of Chrome, then just use Chrome for that website! It's not an either-or thing -- you can install both browsers and use Firefox as the primary one.

And some people will want to stay on Chrome.

And that's what makes this statement so problematic. You don't earn anything by staying exclusively on Chrome, when both it and Firefox can work alongside each other.

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[–] piecat@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Great, they're going to make browser exclusive content. Locked down even worse than it is. Intentional, not just lazy incompatibilities.

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[–] Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Make no mistake, what Google is doing is absolutely dangerous. Malvertisements are definitely a thing. Back in 2010, I got a virus from an ad on a meme site that just went through and trashed my hard drive.

It's unfortunate that there are use cases out there where Chrome is absolutely required. Firefox can't display large directories, for instance. It'll lock up while chromium browsers work fine.

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[–] muculent@lemmy.world 29 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Now introducing Enshittium Browser ad diarrhea flows freely

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[–] frezik@midwest.social 25 points 6 months ago (7 children)

Highly recommend setting up a PiHole. It may not be quite as comprehensive as uBlock, but it cuts the ads way down, and it's not something that browsers can easily bypass. You do have to make sure to shut of DNS over HTTPS, or setup a separate solution for that to tunnel into PiHole.

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[–] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 24 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I'm laughing at myself right now. I keep wishing people would switch to more progressive politics when people cannot even switch to a free piece of software with zero drawbacks even when their software starts blocking other software they use.

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[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 19 points 6 months ago (12 children)

Vivaldi (and Brave I think) are safe until July 2025.

[–] warm@kbin.earth 42 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Any chromium browser is with a flag enabled.

Just switch to Firefox or a derivative already guys.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 11 points 6 months ago

LibreWolf or mullvad browser both FF based.

[–] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 6 months ago (2 children)
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[–] Dagnet@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

Gonna stick with Vivaldi until its last breath, love this browser

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[–] FangedWyvern42@lemmy.world 19 points 6 months ago

Fuck Google.

[–] echo@lemmings.world 13 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I switched to Firefox about a month ago for personal use. It's nearly impossible for me to quit using Chrome, though, due to work.

I don't hate Firefox, but it does absolutely do some stupid shit that I don't like.

[–] vext01@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 6 months ago (17 children)
[–] kautau@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

As someone who uses Vivaldi, which has a significant number of power user and customization features, the fact this is no longer a thing is fucking bonkers to me

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/compact-mode-workaround-firefox#:~:text=Firefox%20Last%20updated:%206/6,https://mzl.la/3JM0ViX

I can turn on an unsupported flag to make the UI a little cleaner for me

To me, it’s wild that the browser for the user decided to deprecate an option like that. Since they dropped XUL support I have very few options on customizing my browser outside of a theme or just writing my own CSS

From there, I’d just point to:

https://vivaldi.com/features/

Firefox pulls in like 500 million dollars a year from Google. Barely any of those features exist in Firefox

I started with Firefox. I used it from day one, when it was an experiment coming out of the Mozilla suite.

I want to use it day to day so bad

But it’s become “how do we chase chrome”

And occasionally they get wins like this. And it no longer feels like

“How can we be best?”

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[–] timewarp@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Or use UBO-Lite? MV3 has some limitations but I'm tired of people acting like it ruins ad blocking when it doesn't.

[–] mediocreme_ow@lemm.ee 25 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

Afaik, UBO lite only updates filter lists when the extension updates, has no element zapper/picker, no per site switches, and no dynamic filtering.

If you can live without these features, then good for you. But there's no need to get frustrated about our claims just because we need better ad-blocking and privacy functions than you.

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[–] astanix@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Turning off auto updates on chrome was convoluted. I assume everything will break when they force this update even with auto updates off.

[–] oce@jlai.lu 38 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's probably going to prevent security updates too and that's worse than ad tracking.

[–] Nikls94@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

looking at the 4“ woman poledancing in the bottom right corner of my windows vista screen

Huh?

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