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Signups opened this week for Loops, a short-form looping video app from the creator of Instagram alternative Pixelfed, reports TechCrunch.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 5 months ago (3 children)

so far it seems like an over-marketed unfinished piece of vaporware. there was nothing to look at when it was first dripped months ago. or when the magical countdown stopped. or when no one received beta invites despite it being 'this week'

just seems like a lot of spamming the fed community now. happy to be proven wrong

[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Dan seems to have trouble sticking with a single project. Sometimes it feels like he announces some new thing every week that never gets finished.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Yeah I still remember his fediverse direct messaging platform. Haven't heard about it since he announced it.

Maybe he's just too busy?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago

Yea this was the last email I got...a promise for another email....5 days ago

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Yeah it would have been enticing to see, you know, an actual video or the interface or at least something other than a logo.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Have you ever seen a TikTok video? Why on Earth do we want that on the Fediverse? Not everything that exists deserves to be copied.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 5 months ago (2 children)

There are good short form videos. There are also bad ones. No different than long form video.

[–] dh34d 3 points 5 months ago

It's also one of the best ways to advertise as a small content creator. The internet hates self-promotion with a passion, but short form videos? People love that shit.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Because wanting braindead content that you don't have to think about or form a critical opinion over is a valid request. There's a big reason the Fediverse doesn't see widespread adoption: the content sucks, it's all politics from the farther edges of every end of the spectrum and FOSSbro tech discussion that's about as insufferable as cryptobro subreddits.

If the Fediverse wants to attract more people, then it needs to start expanding into what those other people actually want. They don't want to have a furry with a Stalin profile pic explain Linux kernel to them, they want to laugh at inconsequential videos of children falling into things that they can leave a "heart" on and quickly share a link to their friend with.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

If the Fediverse wants to attract more people, then it needs to start expanding into what those other people actually want.

I'm okay with more people, but not those people. We are here in the Fediverse for some degree of quality, of which furries explaining the Linux kernel is one example of kind.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago

I think you're underestimating who "we" includes when talking about the Fediverse. Normies want a place here, too.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Yeah, the fediverse would be much better place without narcissistic gatekeeps like you here to bring the mood down all the time.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yea my first reaponse is thats something ill never want. Glad theres no ios client

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

You're glad other people can't access it because you don't like it?

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

None of you have ever laughed at a TikTok once?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

I've never been on tiktok so no

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Not really. Only shaked my head in disbelief.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Lamest flex in history

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Well aren't you cool and aloof

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

Wiser words have never been spoken.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 months ago (4 children)

People who care about decentralisation, privacy and data sovereignty etc are usually smart enough to understand that endless feeds of short form video is the new asbestos. You'd have better luck selling big macs to vegans.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (4 children)

What an absolute neckbeard take

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Shhh 🤫 grownups are talking.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago
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[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Theres vegan big macs - Theres no vegan tiktok :'(

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

I meant the ones made out of meat 😛

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

hear me out. The toxicity of social mefia comes from algorithms and advertising. Lots of short videos by the community can be fun/interesting and not addictive/ brain rotting.

endless feeds of short form video is the new asbestos

that's like saying Mastodon is bad because Twitter ruined society, I mean how often do you find yourself raging endlessly at Mastodon.

I would love to have a chill way of scrolling these videos without having to live with one of the evils.

That being said i am also sceptical if this is it, I mean why do they want my email?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Excellent points 👍

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Yep. Agreed - except it is yet another avenue for monetization should it take hold. People keep acting like the fediverse is some kind of incorruptible platform.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I really hope this gets a proper foss "for you" algo. Personalized content and people discovery features are lacking on the fediverse.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

This is entirely possible through Mastodon/Misskey apps but not having it bound to local data would be awesome. Predictive engines are something most people want an ethical alternative for.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Everybody's heads are up their asses about this. It's a great idea for a fediverse thing.

The real issue is nobody can use it because the damn confirmation emails don't get sent.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

I never used tiktok but i was a fan of vine. It would be fun to host an instance

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I don't really get why people scroll through short-form video, but at least there's an opensource alternative in the works... Will be interesting to see if they allow non-loops users to contribute bandwidth because hosting all of those videos will be expensive af.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

It's because it gives a nice dopamine hit. Just like a still-image meme but more so because it's video.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I like it for language learning. The books gets tedious as hell but some people have excellent short videos to help remember things and hear them pronounced by native speakers.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Read their privacy policy, yo.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Screw the privacy policy, bruh, read that TOS:

When you post Contributions, you grant us a license (including use of your name, trademarks, and logos): By posting any Contributions, you grant us an unrestricted, unlimited, irrevocable, perpetual, non-exclusive, transferable, royalty-free, fully-paid, worldwide right, and license to: use, copy, reproduce, distribute, sell, resell, publish, broadcast, retitle, store, publicly perform, publicly display, reformat, translate, excerpt (in whole or in part), and exploit your Contributions (including, without limitation, your image, name, and voice) for any purpose, commercial, advertising, or otherwise, to prepare derivative works of, or incorporate into other works, your Contributions, and to sublicense the licenses granted in this section. Our use and distribution may occur in any media formats and through any media channels.

In other words, you put any content up there, they can resell it to some movie studio AND make an AI copy of you with no consequences... at least according to their ToS.

EU law however... well, time will tell how fast and violently EU lawyers will inject themselves into the urethra of the service provider.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

And before you go "it's to avoid liability", fucking duh - it doesn't make it right though.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

Tiktok is the type of social that is meant to redirect people elsewhere, I don't know, I think that this could work with the Fedi. Tiktok doesn't really pay it's creator well AFAIK.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

I'm interested, and I hope it's successful.

I'm not sure how they're going to attract creators, when Tiktok already has the same features, has a larger audience, and pays... But I hope they can because I'd love to dump Tiktok for something open source.

I wonder how their FYP will work, because honestly that's a huge part of what makes Tiktok good.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Sick, that'll get rid of like 60% of my reason to use YouTube (bc I use YouTube shorts, aka Google giggles). Edit: signed up, waiting on my email

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