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[–] [email protected] 132 points 5 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 63 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Man, that's pretty fucked up. I doubt anything will come if it from the legal side, but hopefully my cynicism is for naught. Voice actors already get shafted by the industry as it is, so taking away their fan mail without their knowledge is just another punch to the gut.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

Sadly, in the anime industry in general, both in Japan and in the United States, anyone who is not on the money/management side of things basically gets shafted.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 5 months ago

Wow this seems really bad. I do suspect based on the way the VA describes it as being "care of…Crunchy roll", it may not be the serious federal crime some are assuming. Idk what US law says about cases where it's addressed to "[a person] c/o [an org]", but if it's actually addressed to the org with instructions inside indicating it's intended for the person I highly doubt that's such a serious crime.

Doesn't change the morals of it one bit. But unfortunately just increases the chance they may get out of it unscathed.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago

It is really hard to make sense of this. Someone takes on free labor, and by simply couriering the output to your employee, your business benefits from the brightened mood of the worker—far outweighing any cost of having an intern distribute the day's fan mail.

[–] [email protected] 91 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Crunchyroll is evil. I cancelled my subscription when I was lacking closed captions on english dubbed content (for a show that didn't even have other audio available) and when I looked into their forums a staff member replied "We're an entertainment service not a language learning service", completely ignoring hearing impairment exists.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 5 months ago

Holy fuck, that should be a fireable offense. They can say any corporate excuse and not do it, but that is just being dicks.

[–] [email protected] 67 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Ohh yes. Fuck monopolying anime, i stop watching legit source because of that. Pirating is far more simpler.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 5 months ago

Which is funny because they started as pirate streams.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago

Rightstuf was just too good for this world. I cancelled my CR subscription when they fired their local IT people and outsourced to Moldova. The site was already subpar, but I supported it because they supposedly gave a better cut to the animation studios, but from that point, I knew things wouldn't be getting better.

This is what happens when your hobby goes mainstream.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 5 months ago

I was grandfathered in to the old funimation (?) subscription rates.

Then I checked on a whim and crunchyroll had silently bumped me up to their insane monthly rates like five months prior.

The good news was that it helped me to math out that it was almost always cheaper to just buy the blu rays for a season or two rather than do any of the online subscriptions for anime. And now I have a ridiculous plex server.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I cancelled Crunchyroll after I found that someone else was using my account even after a changed the email and password multiple times. There wasnt even a way to force logout all devices. And the customer service said there was no problem. My watched video history just kept logging videos I never watched.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

I just posted a similar situation only I never even created the account.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm not saying you're wrong, but I also want to say I've heard similar stories to this and it turns out the person had a carbon monoxide leak and was being poisoned. You can do things and not remember it. If you're certain that it couldn't have been you, ignore this. Especially if you have frequent headaches or anything else, get it checked out.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

No, someone was using my account. I don't have any gas appliances. And I would always find it after returning from work.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Crunchy Roll's downfall started when they stopped being a piracy site.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

God, it was so cool, all the free stolen content you could ever want in extremely shitty quality.

Now it's just shitty quality streams you still pay for, like an idiot.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

bring back anime on youtube in 3 part videos. its how i watched ultimate muscle

[–] [email protected] 31 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That's such a weirdly sinister thing to do.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago

I suspect the thought process was more contemptuous than sinister. Like: "the voice actors are getting fan mail?!? HA!"

[–] [email protected] 28 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Can somebody elaborate on what the problems are?

[–] [email protected] 38 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

A quick check looks like they're taking the guys fan mail and giving it away to employees

[–] [email protected] 32 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Here's the original twitter post via an interface:

https://xcancel.com/DavidWald_VA/status/1849902237792797064

Man I would not mess with anime fans. The guy voiced Hannes on AoT, and the meme potential is frightening.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Thanks, guys. That's really weird at best 😵‍💫

[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Somehow an account with them was made using my info (email). I never signed up for that as I am not a fan of anime at all. Like, not even a little bit!

I would never have made an account with them.

So I signed in using the forgot password option, and thought I removed/deleted this account- but for months, I kept getting tons of spam from them. Like several a day. Turns out- they never deactivated or removed my account. It was still active!

I had to threaten to sue them to get them to delete my account.

So I’m glad to see them getting what they deserve. They’re shady as hell.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 months ago (3 children)

The denying of liking anime seems so severe like explaining your wife "I would never make gay pornsite account, I'm not fan at all. Like not even a little bit!!"

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Trust me when I say, I can’t stand it. If you knew me, you’d know that’s the last thing I’d have anything to do with. The emphasis was to explain that I was signed up for something that is diametrically in opposition of my interests.

I have my opinions on it and reserve them to myself so as not to disrespect those that like it.

Hope this helps.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Anime is just the Japanese word for animation. Anime isn't a genre, it's an entire medium in a specific country. By some definitions, an entire continent. Drag can't think of any good reason to dislike animation but only when Asians do it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There are absolutely a ton of tropes very unique to Japanese animation but not necessarily other country's animation.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Not every anime has those tropes. Just like not every American movie uses deutsch angles or lens flares.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Obviously, but there are things that are pretty uniquely anime not as present in other media and if someone dislikes those then that's why they might dislike anime but not all animation.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

I think the problem is you're saying you don't like anime, as a global singular thing. I might not like most sandwiches if I don't like white bread, but some sandwiches are made using different bread, so I don't universally dislike sandwiches. I dislike the ones I've tried. (I don't dislike sandwiches. This is a hypothetical.)

Personally, I don't think anyone should ever say they dislike a group of things, especially if they have little experience with it like I assume you do with anime. You can dislike what you've experienced, but you probably should not try to apply that experience to everything or assume you know more than what you've experienced. It needlessly limits your experiences and it makes it more of a personality trait, which you're unlikely to challenge, which you may think sounds cool but it isn't a good thing.

Edit: I'm also not saying you need to watch anime. I choose to not do many things because I don't expect to like it. I tend to not assume a won't just because of preconceived ideas though. I just don't bother with it, and I don't need to be adamant that I don't like it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

If you can find an anime that is entirely unlike all the mainstream anime, do let me know. I'm trying to pin down the exact element it is that I don't like, and so far it seems to be the exaggerated expression of emotion and actions, but maybe you have a counterpoint.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Some people don't consider it to be anime, but if you like subtlety, then you'll probably like Samurai Jack.

Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind is universally regarded to be fantastic and sure doesn't have many of the annoying tropes of modern anime. It's from 1984. It's very heavily environmentalist and antiwar, and also just beautiful to look at. Drag's #1 recommendation.

If your problem is actually with the childishness of many anime and everything being too "kawaii", then try out JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Phantom Blood. From episode 2 onwards, the main character is a grown adult built like Arnold Schwarzenegger in his prime. It's still exaggerated and frankly ridiculous, but the artstyle is mature and gothic in a way that might appeal to you. It's still a shonen (Designed for the sensibilities of male children), but it doesn't have annoying kids for main characters.

Kaiji: Ultimate Survivor is another example of a mature but ridiculous show. And it's ridiculous in a very grounded way. Kaiji is an unemployed loser who signs up for an illegal gambling tournament where the consequence for losing is literal slavery on the black market. No fantasy or science fiction themes, just a man past the brink of desperation trying to survive. The emotions are exaggerated compared to real life, but they feel incredibly grounded in the context of the show.

Drag tried watching Assassination Classroom and didn't like it, but maybe you will. It's a very slow burn mainly focusing on personal relationships between a class of students and their teacher. It would be far from drag's first recommendation, but maybe worth a try.

Drag would also like to suggest Kamen Rider even though drag is certain you won't like it. See, it's live action, but filmed very much like an anime. It's the Japanese equivalent of Power Rangers and is created purely to sell toys to children. You'll probably find it annoying, and experiencing that annoyance in a live action format might give you more clues as to what exactly you dislike. Kamen Rider Build is a good one to start with.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

experiencing that annoyance in a live action format might give you more clues as to what exactly you dislike

Just for this, drag already has my respect. That is an incredibly analytical approach to the topic.

I'll get to the list later, but I wanted to express my appreciation for that sentiment.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

I don't watch much anime, so I can't help. Maybe someone else will.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

I think the problem is you're saying you don't like anime

I didn't say that, someone else did.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The Emoji movie is uniquely American, but if someone refuses to watch Saving Private Ryan because it's from the same country as Emoji movie, then they're a big silly.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

That's a bizarre comparison. It's more like someone saying they don't want to watch Saving Private Ryan because they don't like movies. Even then, many people who "don't like anime" might like an anime or two out of many they've tried. Like if someone hates all ice creams except they sort of like mint chocolate chip, then saying "I don't like ice cream" is okay to say.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

They are fairly prevalent in Afghanistanimation.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

From my own experience, it's probably intended to forestall the inevitable "Oh but have you tried...?" "I don't like Anime either, but ... was great!" or any other variant of "surely there must be some anime you like". Some Anime fans seem to struggle with accepting that their favorite medium just isn't for everyone, no matter how broad and diverse they think the range is.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Or it's just an emphasis on how unlikely they inadvertently signed up that account / forgot

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago

Conspiracy theory: they realised this news was about to break, and removed the comment section because they expected a shitshow where every one of their customers saw comments pointing out their crimes.

As a dub watcher, the comment section was important. The dub comments were the only place to see what an unsubtitled background sign said or which scene had been cut from the manga that explained why something weird happened without there being comments from sub watchers full of spoilers for a couple of episodes later, which they don't consider spoilers as the subtitled version of that episode was a week old.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This is why I pirate anime and then support authors and studios other ways.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Time to sail the seven seas and stream Anime

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I pay for crunchyroll because I want to support the content creators. It's this a mistake?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago

Anime animators get almost no pay from the airing of shows