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[–] [email protected] 137 points 5 months ago (26 children)

Mac Mini's are cool, and I appreciate that Apple has some of the most experienced and talented designers in the world... But they put the power switch on the bottom. You have to lift it up and turn it over to turn it on and off.

A Mac Mini underside, showing the power button placement.

[–] [email protected] 103 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (5 children)

Remember these are the same engineers who put the Magic Mouse charging port on the bottom, making the mouse unusable while you charge it

[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 months ago (14 children)

Honestly, the mouse charger screams marketing or management. Apple's brand is partially form over function.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 months ago (11 children)

People treat it like a mistake but not be able to use the mouse while it’s plugged in is the entire point of the design. Right or wrong the Apple designers thought a cord drag was a bad experience and designed to prevent it.

They probably looked at their target audience and realized there was a certain percentage of folks that would just leave the mouse on the cord 24/7 and wanted to prevent that.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 months ago

They also know their target audience has plenty of people who gobble up every bad design decision and even defend it online years later.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I don't understand why this is so hard to understand. You're supposed to stop using the mouse while it is charging, and use the mouse unplugged. That's the purpose. It's not a stupid decision, it just prevents some user's preferred operation of using the mouse while it is charging

[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

"it prevents some users' preferred operation of using the mouse while its charging"

...

"It's not a stupid decision"

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It’s not a stupid decision, but a stubborn one.

I’m 100% OK with that; Apple is heavy on design aesthetics. If a user doesn’t like that, they can just use their own preferred mouse - wired or otherwise.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I used to buy Macs when I was a teenager and young adult, but finally grew tired of the "my way or the highway" approach to design.

Windows is guilty of this too, but it's more subtle, but getting worse all the time with w11.

Linux has more of a "you break it, you buy it" approach to design lol

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

People treat it like a mistake, but the Emperor has no clothes and people are catching on.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 5 months ago

What.

The fuck.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago (3 children)

In case it wasn't a joke, I imagine it would be high enough for your finger to just poke under it to push the button, like you would a monitor with buttons on the bottom of the screen.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The new design seems more lifted, I think it should be fine to fit your finger below there without having to lift it up yourself. At least for most people.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

Power Bottom

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (5 children)

But once its on why would you ever turn it off? /s

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

This but non-sarcastically. I have a Mac mini and I don’t think I’ve ever touched the power button (except after plugging in of course, but then you’re already fiddling)

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

I bought my iMac in March 2020... since then it's been powered down maybe half a dozen times (a couple of those were power cuts) and rebooted (outside of macOS updates) maybe ten times.

It just sits there reliably doing its thing and sucks little juice in power saving so 🤷🏻‍♂️

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (5 children)

The previous model has it in the back, you can’t even feel it properly because it’s not recessed.

On the other hand the last time I turned off my M1 mini was when we moved. It’s 100% silent and takes less power than a lightbulb when it sleeps, so why would I bother powering it off.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So while it sleeps, it still wastes electricity on literally nothing. Gotcha

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 5 months ago

Most, if not all, Apple devices look almost exactly the same as their sibling devices.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

Well, it would be

  • more confusing if they shaped it like an iPhone,
  • more unstable if they shaped it like the magic mouse with the power port at the bottom,
  • super cute if they kept the exact mac pro tower design but super smol,
  • actually useful as a vase of they used that cylinder mac pro design from 10 years ago
[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 months ago

That cilinder Mac Pro was a fever dream but I still love the design

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Smol Mac Pro would have been the best possible reality here.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

more unstable if they shaped it like the magic mouse with the power port at the bottom

Sounds like someone didn't wear their Brave pants today

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Implying Mac Minis haven't looked like Apple TVs from the beginning?

Mac Mini (2005-2009):

Apple TV (1^st^ gen, 2007):

Mac Mini (2010, first redesign after Apple TV came out):

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 5 months ago (5 children)

The price of the storage upgrades. Jesus.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago

It's kinda cute

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (15 children)

That doesn’t seem very good for the price.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 5 months ago (6 children)

When... have their products ever been competitive on price? Not even shitting on them, but there's always been an Apple tax.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Honestly, now that they put in a reasonable amount of RAM, with a processor that strong and some external storage, 600USD isn’t that terrible of a price.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago

I’d need to see what comparable x86 processors and graphics are to the M4, but yeah, this seems like it could be one of the first Macs in a while to be really competitive on price. It doesn’t happen often but it does happen. Fifteen years ago, a couple years after Macintosh went to Intel, I bought a Mac Pro. I had a hard time comparing prices at first, but once I finally realized I needed to be looking at workstations instead of desktops the Mac Pro actually came out to be about $300 less than identically spec’d workstations from Dell and HP. That was about the price of a full retail license on Windows Vista Ultimate (or later Windows 7 Ultimate). With Boot Camp and feeling like I could find Windows on sale for less it actually seemed to make the most sense with the added benefit of access to both Windows and OS X. It was frankly the best Windows machine I’ve ever used. No bloat, and all the drivers worked.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The SSD size is silly though.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago (2 children)

They've often been on par with competitors tbh.

The X1 Carbon isn't much cheaper than a Macbook Air and ditto for Dell XPS vs Macbook Pro. The Macs have better build quality usually, but the PCs would get better specs. RAM, at least.

The Galaxy S series stars in the same range as iPhones do, though you get a better screen. But in the Ultra and Pro Max versions the screens trade blows and the iPhone is apparently cheaper.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago

Back in 2009-2010 I bought an entry level 13" MacBook Pro because it was fairly competitively priced compared to other options with similar specs, but the MBP had by far the better battery life, display quality, touchpad, and probably keyboard. It was easily worth the upcharge for those factors, so no real Apple Tax.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago

M4 reportedly outperforms Intel’s Core i9-14900KS by 16%. That CPU alone is over $600.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago

I mean.. It looks like the other Mac minis so... Okay.

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