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[–] mke@programming.dev 252 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

You could say Bluesky is... picking up Steam, eh?

Sorry, I have no new or interesting insights to offer, I'd hope most already get what's happening, anyway.

[–] Kushan@lemmy.world 49 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Don't worry about not having any insights, I still valve-ued the pun.

[–] illi@lemm.ee 26 points 4 months ago

It's nice to see other people enjoy the pun. Would be shame for it to be left4dead

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[–] jonathan@lemmy.zip 56 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And Valve and Steamdeck accounts.

[–] jeeva@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Found Steamdeck, but I can't see a non parody Valve account - got a link/handle?

Edit: Valve Software, thank you.

[–] jonathan@lemmy.zip 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Look at the boosted posts.

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[–] Octospider@lemm.ee 43 points 4 months ago (5 children)

I wonder why is Mastodon is not appealing to Valve.

[–] ahal@lemmy.ca 65 points 4 months ago

Bluesky has 20x the user base (and the gap is growing wider every day).

[–] DaseinPickle@leminal.space 29 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I really enjoy Mastodon, but it seems to be too confusing with all the servers. I don’t know why, but maybe because people have been conditioned by big tech to use centralised services. Especially Gen Z that grew up with this very big tech controlled internet.

[–] TGhost@lemm.ee 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

They could just put their own instance alive,
not very hard for them, after they shown us what they can do,
They can make the changes happen, they showed us already.

And thoses who wants the feed, just have to subscribe.

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Valve is already under fire for Nazi content in fringe parts of Steam Community (warranted or not); I don’t think they want to tackle responsibility of moderating another large social network.

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[–] sag@lemm.ee 9 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Especially Gen Z that grew up with this very big tech controlled internet.

Yep, I only 3 person IRL who know and uses Forum or Reddit.

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[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 42 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I will never not read "bluesky" as "bloo-skee"

[–] pancakes@sh.itjust.works 18 points 4 months ago

It will always be "bluey-skibidi"

[–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 41 points 4 months ago (2 children)

So how can I follow them from Mastodon?

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This is my question too. Search results turn up Bridgy Fed, but that seems to require the account you're interested in following to go through those steps, which none of the accounts I'm interested in are doing. At least the Threads POTUS account turned on federation so I can view it from Mastodon, but I suspect for the next four years, that account will be pretty quiet, and if it isn't, I'll probably want it to be.

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[–] zanyllama52@infosec.pub 38 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Is bluesky really eclipsing mastodon? jeeze

[–] viking@infosec.pub 26 points 4 months ago (5 children)

The signup process for mastodon sucks massively. Unless you're nerdy enough to sort it out, you'll give up then and there. Bluesky is very straightforward, while offering customization to those looking for a non-mainstream experience.

Same for Lemmy tbh.

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[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 25 points 4 months ago (1 children)

In the near term of course bluesky will, it has hype, it has rich tech people on it, it has 10s of millions of investment it can throw at stuff.

This is not how Mastodon or the Fediverse grows, our growth is real, not based on hyped and marketing. People come and stay here because it is a nice place, not because it is a popular or exciting new hangout spot that all the rich cool people are going to.

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[–] capital@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

See y’all next time everyone gets surprised and upset when their centralized social media gets bought by a conservative sycophant.

Did they not learn a damn thing?

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 6 points 4 months ago

Two days ago BlueSky was adding more users in an hour than Mastodon was per week.

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[–] x3x3@lemm.ee 25 points 4 months ago (4 children)
[–] babybus@sh.itjust.works 57 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Because people moved to bluesky and not to mastodon.

[–] index@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Not true, Mastodon has millions of users

[–] babybus@sh.itjust.works 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

And blue sky got like 15 millions in two weeks. Look, do you really think that everyone decided to diss Mastodon? All major companies, celebrities, sport teams, you name it? Or maybe there's a more reasonable explanation why Bluesky?

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[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 37 points 4 months ago (11 children)

Can you explain the benefits of the fediverse over a centralized private site to a regular person in 5-second quip that will convince them that the relative complexity of using the fediverse versus BlueSky is worth the effort?

[–] index@sh.itjust.works 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Can you explain the benefits of the fediverse over a centralized private site to a regular person in 5-second quip that will convince them that the relative complexity of using the fediverse versus BlueSky is worth the effort?

Billionares with mega yacht fleets are choosing bluesky over mastodon.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Like it or not, a regular person doesn't give two shits about that.

[–] index@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Talk for yourself, the average person does indeed care about the environment. In the past years there have been massive greenwashing campaigns from companies trying to please the average customer.

[–] Ashtear@lemm.ee 7 points 4 months ago

Man, I wanna live in your neighborhood. I'm surrounded by bougie people or people with bougie fantasies. They talk all the time about drinking wine on a boat.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

Yeah because it doesn't cost them anything to say they "do their part" when they make token "commitments". It's not because the average person gives a shit. Give them a choice - $5 more an hour, or instantly and forever solve climate change and see how many people would choose climate change.

People complain about having to sort trash before throwing it out. Saying "most people care about the environment" is extremely naive.

[–] secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Centralized and private = enshitification

Self hosted and federated = not prone to enshitification

Idk how simple it has to be for people but clearly I'm over estimating people

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago (10 children)

Okay. Now, explain the concept of enshitification. And do it using terms that regular folk won't find crass.

You know how conservatives live in this bubble where they don't even see their racism because it's so normalized? We're interacting within a bubble where everyone has a very high level of technical competence versus the average person, so we fail to understand just how tech illiterate others are.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 5 points 4 months ago

Not just tech illiterate but also advertising illiterate. The regular folks I know seem happy to wade through endless platform ads and influencer sales pitches. Enshittification can really be a slowly boiling frog type scenario.

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[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Twitter was bluesky before musk bought it, federation ensures that can't easily happen to mastodon.

That's it.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Cool. Now give me an argument why my mother would care about this fact.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

maybe not your mother, but anyone who left twitter recently (because musk) should understand. that’s who we are talking about.

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[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (5 children)

Because casual mainstream basic folk (non-techie) don't like the slight legwork you need to do and understand the Fediverse

I saw an article from Yahoo (Source: The Independent) last week about Bluesky's current success from Xitter refugees and it also listed other similar groups like Mastedon. What didn't surprise me is that they said Mastedon is predominantly "techie" which includes the majority of it's user base as "supernerds" with the site having the "steepest learning curve." This was an op-ed from an outsider.

Until Mastedon can appeal to simple minded mainstream basic folk (which is a pretty good size of netizens) it will always be a niche group.

[–] MrSpArkle@lemmy.ca 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Until fediverse advocates stop thinking of people as simple minded, they will never understand the steps needed to be relevant.

The main advantage to Bluesky’s architecture is centralized identity and distributed components.

The centralized identity is key. Unless someone figures out a way to do this in activitypub, the fediverse will remain niche.

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[–] Chewmungus@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

Accurate username

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[–] Modva@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago (2 children)

That's great, I suppose less concentration to a single platform is a better direction.

Is there less rage and frothing at the mouth on Bluesky? I would imagine whatever ills plague Twitter would also eventually come to Bluesky, because people are there. And people are people. We don't seem to have a solution to the problem - which is a specific subset of people intent on harm, and allowing them direct and wholesale access to the social fabric.

So easy nowadays to fabricate rage-inducing and follower-generating bait. No time for truth and no plan to really get there. How long before we see someone take a stab at a ministry of truth?

[–] karashta@piefed.social 20 points 4 months ago (3 children)

The block function is heavily used. Whole block lists get passed around quite frequently. I've never really seen much hate on there unless I'm clicking into something obviously heated politically. Other people may have other experiences, but the current culture there is to not engage the hate farmers and just block people instead

[–] radix@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

Nuclear block plus a culture of not feeding the trolls means the only toxic accounts I've run across are just a day or two old. Block and move on. The experience can only be as negative as each user lets it be.

[–] static09@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

This has been my experience too. The community moderation tools on top of the tools available to moderate my own feed are leagues ahead of other platforms. Being able to temporarily block keywords feels really awesome in avoiding dumb shit that can blast through social media.

[–] babybus@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 months ago

Is there less rage and frothing at the mouth on Bluesky?

Yes, but I think that's temporary. When you have tens of millions of users, that's inevitable. Right now a lot of people are on their honeymoon periods, but I already see sprouts of negative attitude.

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