Why do none of these have trackpads? Also I really don't understand why staggered joysticks are the standard.
SteamOS is definitely a step in the right direction, but the layout still looks not quite as good as the steam deck.
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Why do none of these have trackpads? Also I really don't understand why staggered joysticks are the standard.
SteamOS is definitely a step in the right direction, but the layout still looks not quite as good as the steam deck.
Also I really don't understand why staggered joysticks are the standard.
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I find them more comfortable. The left joystick is the primary for movement, and the primary interface should be on top because that's how thumbs work. The right needs to jump from the joystick to the buttons, so having the buttons be to the top and right makes sense (again, where thumbs go).
I have a PS4 controller for my PC because it supports Bluetooth and works OOTB with Linux, but I honestly prefer my old XBox controller. I'm probably going to get a PS5 controller, not because it's more ergonomic (it's not), but because it has gyro aiming. Playstation controllers aren't uncomfortable, they're just not as comfortable as offset joysticks.
Why do none of these have trackpads?
Maybe they're trying to aim for the crowd for whom the Deck is too expensive, and shaving off some of the hardware helps?
I mean, it does sound like a significant drawback, but if you gotta get the cost down, I suppose that's one thing to look at.
I wouldn't think so. They already sell the legion go at a loss and rumors of a legion go lite (which is what this device looks like) price it at around the same price as a steam deck.
Valve can sell devices at a loss and make it up in game sales. None of the current handheld makers have been able to compete on price as a result. I don't expect that to change any time soon.
I've never once used the trackpad outside of desktop mode and even then it had limited use cases. What do other people use them for?
You can map a ton of inputs to them or use them for mouse control or more precise stick/dpad control, for a couple examples. I would never buy another handheld without them.
They're essential for Factorio, the factory must grow!
As an alternative to thumbsticks for shooters and such. My understanding is when you get used to them they're great for that. I was never able to get used to them on the OG steam controller.
I wonder how they are gonna do this, I’m hoping steamOS doesn’t end up like Android where there are a million skins and updates take forever. I know Linux s Is universally compatible with most x86 hardware so in theory it should plug in play as long as they use an amd gpu.
That's a valid concern, hopefully Lenovo is smart enough to not insert themselves in the software pipeline between Valve and their customers.
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The way it works with handhelds right now (Bazzite instead of vanilla steam OS), there's certain things that have to be enabled to get the hardware side of things working (all the buttons and inputs etc), but it's still really easy to both update and to use and I haven't had any problems with the ROG Ally X or the Lenovo Legion Go running Bazzite. I dual boot windows (and have group policy edited pretty much all of Microsoft's BS tracking and AI to banish it to that shadow realm) for windows only games that I couldn't get to run reliably in proton, but I'm really happy with it and I'd imagine steam OS coming to such handhelds officially would benefit users rather than being a detriment as far as ease of use goes.
A big problem with Android is ARM vendors don't upstream anything in so you need to run very specific kernel and bootloaders just to boot the OS. SteamOS on x86 won't have that problem, regardless of who makes the end device.
Suddenly I'm very interested. I know you can install HoloISO or whatever distro you want but some first party support for drivers is gonna be awesome.
Lenovo's handheld was probably the one that was most appealing versus the Steamdeck - Similar control scheme, good specs, but included detachable controllers which is one thing I wish the deck had after coming from the Switch. It makes coop/party games easier, and there's more maintainability when you don't have to gut the internals for a single joystick.
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