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[–] solrize@lemmy.world 133 points 3 months ago (6 children)

We need browser extensions to kill those tags automatically.

[–] UnpopularCrow@lemmy.world 109 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Firefox I believe does. If you right click on a link, it says something like “copy link without tracking”. It should do away with queries in the URL, but I’m not completely sure.

https://www.trishtech.com/2024/10/how-to-disable-copy-link-without-site-tracking-in-firefox/

[–] podperson@lemm.ee 59 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This is definitely what it’s supposed to do (and a great feature) but unfortunately it doesn’t work that well. Have tried this many times, especially with Amazon links, and it seems to be a bit inconsistent in its effectiveness.

[–] UnpopularCrow@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

Good to know.

[–] solrize@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Oh nice, that is pretty new, but will have to see if it works on those gumroad links. I have an offline script (not a browser extension, I haven't bothered figuring out how to write those) that edits urls to remove tracking and it's quite a pain, since there are dozens of sites and tracking schemes it has to know about. Also, rather than creating a pasteable url, a suitable browser extension should just rewrite the link automatically before navitation when you click on it.

[–] narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee 46 points 3 months ago (1 children)

uBlock Origin filter or ClearURLs for example.

[–] tb_@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

In the case of uBO, just search for "url" in the filter list and you should find it.

[–] ivn@jlai.lu 9 points 3 months ago

The URL tracking filter list is nice but it doesn't seems to include anything related to gumroad domain or parameters.

https://filters.adtidy.org/extension/ublock/filters/17.txt

You need to add it yourself.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

For those of you with Apple devices, I’m pretty sure current versions of Mac OS and iOS remove tracking arguments from URLs when you use cut/copy/paste/share.

https://9to5mac.com/2023/06/08/ios-17-link-tracking-protection/

[–] ivn@jlai.lu 5 points 3 months ago

This is about removing tracking arguments that identify users, this is not the case here.

The example in your link even show it's keeping campaign tracking arguments. So I'm pretty sure it would keep the one we are talking about here.

[–] stalfoss@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago

Also this only applies in private browsing mode, which people usually aren’t in

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

This the most tech illiterate take....

These are called query parameters. The standard part of the HTTP spec.

A huge part of the internet uses these simply as a way to instruct a page to display certain data or to display a particular view or layout of that data.

Calling for an extension to get rid of these it's like calling for an extension to get rid of headers because websites use them to pass metadata in the same manner.

Edit: that was harsh my apologies.

[–] solrize@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

There are in fact many extensions designed to suppress or rewrite headers, most notably cookies, but also proxy headers and other things like that. Stripping out privacy invading (or in this case revenue redirecting) query parameters is another thing that extensions can do, and there are various extensions for that too, including apparently ublock origin (UBO).

UBO is not able to rewrite urls completely (a deliberate decision to protect users from accidental or intentional security breaking rules appearing in rule lists) but there are other extensions that do that too, like changing www.reddit.com to old.reddit.com, or bypassing google redirects and link shorteners that snoop on user activity. The web is a predator-prey ecosystem (users are mostly prey) and it is necessary to respond to new hazards as they appear.

[–] stinky@redlemmy.com 1 points 3 months ago

You were so, so much more polite than I would have been

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[–] ivn@jlai.lu 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

An uBlock Origin custom filtrer should do.

[–] solrize@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Hmm, I thought ublock origin could only block links, not rewrite them. Am I missing something? I just looked through the docs and only see block/allow/noop rules, and I remember reading something a while back about how the devs didn't want to rewrite. I'd love to have a pointer to the docs about how to do this if I'm wrong. Thanks ;)

Added: https://old.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/comments/b9tdky/rule_for_redirecting_urls_to_cleaner_ones/ points to some github issues related to this.

[–] ivn@jlai.lu 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Use removeparam.

The URL tracking protection filter list uses this and is a nice list to enable.

[–] solrize@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Thanks! I saw the GH issue about that but didn't figure out that it had been deployed.

[–] nieminen@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] solrize@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Thanks, I have that too I think. It's great for sharing from my phone. On my laptop I have a python script that is a lot fancier that I'd like to rewrite as a browser extension someday.

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[–] Sunny@slrpnk.net 54 points 3 months ago (1 children)

For those of us living under a rock, what's Gumroad?

[–] ArchRecord@lemm.ee 34 points 3 months ago (2 children)

An online ecommerce platform.

It's similar to Etsy. Targets smaller creators, values individual-made goods, but focuses on digital content, like soundtracks, 3D assets, etc.

[–] TheMachineStops@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I remember reading about Gumroad it used to be mostly for NSFW art, but they did a Tumblr and banned it. Maybe this is related to the loss of revenue.

Edit: found the article

https://techcrunch.com/2024/03/15/gumroad-no-longer-allows-most-nsfw-art-leaving-its-adult-creators-panicked/

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 3 months ago

Taking 30% off of physical goods sounds criminal to me.

[–] sorrybookbroke@sh.itjust.works 48 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

OK, I think the real solution is that I'm never using Gumroad again. Sad, as some really good dnd stuff was there

[–] arararagi@ani.social 40 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What a terrible platform, I knew they would get desperate after banning porn.

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They banned porn?? I used to follow Gumroad's founder on Twitter, he seemed like a good person.

[–] arararagi@ani.social 3 points 3 months ago

Yep, there was a rush over at kemono party to try and archive gumroad stuff that artists sold there because it would be hidden/deleted.

[–] tja@sh.itjust.works 39 points 3 months ago

https://bsky.app/profile/stargazerbird.pmd.social/post/3ld4tz3hllc2u

Based of that, it sounds like it’s affect people who had opted into the boosted discovery since that was already a thing and that was 30%+. The simplified wording doesn’t help but I’m feeling this got way blown out of proportion. Humanity does that nowadays.

[–] renegadespork@lemmy.jelliefrontier.net 38 points 3 months ago (2 children)

A dumb policy with perhaps an even dumber implementation. Basing profit sharing percentages off query parameters 🫨 ?

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

That’s how basically all affiliate links work.

This time it’s just the merchant getting more or less from the creator. vs doing the split with the linker and the merchant.

Also 10% is pretty low, normally merchants take like 30% cut by default so they have plenty to share.

[–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The parameters are how you get to the store.

If the creator is driving the traffic, Gumroad takes 10%. If Gumroad is driving the traffic, they take a commission of 30%

[–] renegadespork@lemmy.jelliefrontier.net 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I understand that. That approach is just really easy to manipulate.

[–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Not any more than any other tracking method. They control it all.

If anything, the fact that they give you a method to alter how your purchase is tracked so you can still give the creator 90% when you get to them through their store is pro-creator.

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[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 29 points 3 months ago

These artists should switch platforms because the query string isn't the only way they can track attribution. If they see people doing this they will just switch to something else if they don't already use another method as well.

[–] viking@infosec.pub 29 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Never heard of that platform before, is it US only?

[–] MashedTech@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

No, it's just one of many. I've purchased stuff from gum road before.

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 23 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'll just skip the whole place

[–] 8000gnat@reddthat.com 3 points 3 months ago

some of us have been ever since gumroad worked with st*netoss

[–] whaleross@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

Enshittification seems damn inevitable these days.

[–] nieminen@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] ivn@jlai.lu 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

But did you try in this case? Because it doesn't seems to have a sanitizer handling gumroad, in fact the sanitizer list is quite limited.

[–] nieminen@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Oh you're right. I thought you could add your own. Either way they push updates regularly, I bet if someone asked for a specific one, or maybe asked to be able to add their own, they would do it.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Are you sure a new tab is necessary? Simply removing the tracking data and hitting Enter should be enough.

[–] castlebravo404 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Probably an abundance of caution. I'm pretty sure referrer headers wouldn't be sent if you modified the URL and that's the only concern I can think of.

*For a new tab that is. Cookies aren't going to care about a new tab unless you open a private one first.

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