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[–] [email protected] 157 points 3 months ago (13 children)

Im someone who likes to shoot a gun at targets at the range. I find it SO creepy and unnerving when it becomes clear that someone would like to shoot at a person. They don't usually outright say it, but some make it clear in other ways.

[–] [email protected] 82 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Right? Like in my ideal world, guns would be a hobby for weird nerds in the same way fencing is today. The one or two times I have felt like there's even a small chance I may need to use a gun in self defense were terrifying and stressful.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

There's quite a few hobbies where the other people who meet up to participate as a group as a group are a huge turnoff.

Guns are one of those hobbies for me.

I would love to talk about the amazing mechanics and different approaches guns have to firing an exploding charge to move a mass of metal at supersonic speeds just like I love talking about the mechanical parts of trains and cars. But the gun crowd tends to have too high of a proportion of very vocal terrible people.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If you like guns as a technology Open Source Defense is a good newsletter imo. They don't delve into politics thankfully but look at how laws are implemented, improving safety at scale etc

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

I would love to talk about the amazing mechanics and different approaches guns have to firing an exploding charge to move a mass of metal at supersonic speeds

You need to hang out with gunsmiths. Those are the folks having those kinds of conversations.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago (6 children)

The "Go ahead and make my day" crowd.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

Can't find it now, but there was an image of a police target floating around that had the outline of a person holding up a cell phone camera.

Dystopian AF.

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[–] [email protected] 77 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Sounds like my former coworker showing off his new gun on Facebook a few years back, with the post "I can't wait to use this to defend my family."

[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 months ago (1 children)

People like to think that because they own a gun, if they ever got to use it they would be John Wick.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (4 children)

What they don't realize is that Keanu Reeves does a ton of training, and even occasionally does competitions

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Also, it's a movie, not real life. John wick would have died hundreds of times in those movies if even some of those events were real.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Man, I would be pretty upset if I dedicated a bunch of my time to compete, and then a guy who got paid millions of dollars to train with some of the best experts in the field showed up as a competitor. That would be like entering an amateur competition and there's a fucking Navy Seal in line next to you.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago

That's the sort of person who shouldn't own a firearm. That should actually be added as a question for the background check form.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (21 children)

As someone seriously considering their first firearm purchase, my main thought is "I hope this is a gigantic waste of time and money".

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 3 months ago (9 children)

When the average right winger treats guns like toys it's a good sign for every leftist to also own guns.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Ah yes. The true red blooded American solution; the only way to solve a serious problem is to escalate it out of proportion.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Why is arming yourself in self defense escalating it out of proption when leftists do it?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (39 children)

The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

How would you stop a fascist with a gun that wants to put you in a camp?

If you are lgbtq, on any mental health medication, or a immigrant as a result of natrual born citizenships then you need to realistically ask yourself this question, because that's the stated policy of the new president.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (96 children)

You would have thought that after January 6th/George Floydd protests, and the lack of justice that followed both, would have finally shown liberals they cannot rely on cops and the "justice" system for personal protection.

Warren vs district of Columbia

Town of Castle Rock v. Gonzales

Uvalde school shooting

Yet here we are.

My body, my choice to protect it the way i wish. Fuck off gun grabbers. Prisoners are forced to give up all their rights and yet they are still not safe in prison. I refuse to be your prisoner.

SocialistRA.org

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 3 months ago (6 children)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Haile_Kifer_and_Nicholas_Brady

TLDR: man lures teens into his home by leaving his house wide open so he could shoot and kill them.

The absolute sicko made audio recordings where he floated about killing them.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 months ago (12 children)

This case is horrible, but you have misrepresented it in your comments. The teens broke a window and entered his house with the intention to rob it—it was not left wide open. The recording devices were turned on because he knew they were robbing the house. His first shots to stop the intruders were legal.

Where the crime occurred is that the original shots did not kill them, and then he executed them after they were downed. He also did not report the bodies for a day.

Don’t get me wrong, dude is a psychopathic asshole, but misrepresenting the series of events doesn’t help anybody.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They weren't, they went over this in the trial.

He became the aggressor when he removed barriers to entry and laid in wait which is a negative defense for self defense.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (18 children)

Wikipedia says they broke a window to enter, and that can be heard on audio—I’m not trying to argue with everything, but how is a closed window that had to be broken for entry not a barrier?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

With the premise the OP presented, I expected something worse than what was actually there. It was still horrible, but the impact was lessened for the reasons you listed.

Interesting how someone can manufacture consent like that by shifting your initial view.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

This is the absolute truth. I personally know a guy who pulls out a huge roll of money just to buy a $1 pop from a machine at night. He carries, has been for years. He is trying to get someone to mug him. You know why.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Republicans really be hating different sexualities when they themselves are ammo-sexuals

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

"... but if you can't, please make sure they enter unarmed so I can shoot them safely"

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Honestly, I was thinking of this

White Man & Black Man Carry AR-15 Rifles In Open Carry Video Experiment

A recent video posted to YouTube by Willie Upchuck captures the same incident resulting in two distinctively different responses from police. A White gentleman is politely questioned by police, while a Black man is harshly told to get on the ground at gunpoint.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 months ago

Every time I see someone say that even the most lenient of gun regulations shouldn't be passed in the U.S., all I can do is picture them at home calling their guns "precious" like Gollum.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago (2 children)

That's really what it comes down to.

These people want an "excuse" to murder someone.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yes those people do

And then there's a ton of people that have guns, train when they can and hope they never have to use their skills outside of the range or competitions. We never ever hear about them because they are normal people

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Lol I have several guns. Some I don't know if I even have ammo for them at all.

I can't imagine the mindset these types of owners have. They are afraid and they want to murder someone. I can't imagine

Hell, the few rifles I have are stored with the firing bolts removed and locked up separately.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago (8 children)

If I had to kill somebody, I'd be scarred for life. Even if it was clearly in self defense.

Yet I've talked to gun owners who fantasize about getting the drop on a burglar and shooting them dead or something like that. I don't know if they're actually that bloodthirsty or just delusional, but either way it's pretty disturbing.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It’s both.

Our systems have taught them that criminals are worthless disgusting inhuman animals who deserve death, and they’ve never considered the trauma associated with killing someone.

Plenty of veterans lives are ruined by shit like that, and they signed up for it. A little basement dwelling incel couldn’t even comprehend the trauma.

And let’s not forget the statistics of the people who break into your house. It’s likely someone you know. Are you prepared to shoot your friend?

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (26 children)

Anyways, that's how i killed my daughter.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

Every Republican ever be like

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

Way too true, I know too many people who are genuinely like this my brother included. If people have this kind of mindset they shouldn't be allowed to own guns, it is a tragedy waiting to happen.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

Untill then there's lots of schools.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

opens closet

finds box with "Retirement Policy" written on it

yep, safe and sound

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