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alt text: a manipulated image portraying the alleged killer/controversial folk hero re-envisioned as a saintly figure, wearing Christian religious garb with a sun-like halo shining behind his head

Source: someone said this image hit the front page on reddit before being "censored".

Apparent credit: @gedogfx (IG). Title source: "Inkl". πŸ’©posting for meme archival and commentary purposes.

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[–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 160 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (5 children)

Pope Francis has the opportunity to do the funniest thing here

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 72 points 3 months ago (6 children)

I was ready to point out that this was not possible because canonisation requires the person have performed two miracles, but then I found out that there is actually a pathway without that:

Very rarely, a Pope may waive the requirement… if he, the Sacred College of Cardinals, and the Congregation for the Causes of Saints all agree that the Blessed lived a life of great merit proven by certain actions.

[–] gnutrino@programming.dev 49 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I'm not sure they can waive the requirement that a saint be dead however, it's sort of part of the definition...

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 37 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

I think there is an inbetween where you not declared saint but basically are declared somewhat holy ready to be sainted once you die.

[–] Damage@slrpnk.net 32 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] lars@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 3 months ago (3 children)

But he’s already so beautified 😍

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[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 21 points 3 months ago

The miracles are going to be people praying to him to have their claims accepted.

[–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Well, the Popeis the absolute sovereign dictator of Church dogma, so if he says tomorrow that Luigi is a saint, then all 1 billion Catholics worldwide must listen

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[–] rbn@sopuli.xyz 29 points 3 months ago

'In nomine Patris et Filii, et Spiritus Sancti. Mora, abnegare et deponere. Amen.'

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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 143 points 3 months ago (1 children)

He was arrested for US healthcare's sins.

[–] assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world 50 points 3 months ago (4 children)

And on the third trial he was freed again.

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[–] Rooty@lemmy.world 84 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Print it out and put it in your wallet to ward against high insurance rates.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago

Maybe it will also ward against extra scrutiny from law enforcement. Maybe.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 70 points 3 months ago (4 children)

It's almost going to be disappointing if we find out he was framed

[–] bigschnitz@lemmy.world 44 points 3 months ago (2 children)

You mean that what appeared to be a meticulously planned and masterfully executed assassination, such that there was little to no usable camera footage wasn't likely to be undone the perp wandering around with a written confession and the murder weapon days later?

I'm shocked there haven't been more conspiracy theories on this.

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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 37 points 3 months ago

It would be the worst kind of mindfuck for him if he was just some radical centrist tech bro who got framed of a crime, sanctified in the public opinion, and then proven to be innocent. Like that's the shit therapists' accountants dream of

[–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago

You know, I feel like the thousands of people thirsting after him would be a pretty good ego boost at least. Enough to make up for the psychological torture of being framed? Probs not, buuuuuutttt...

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 57 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

Looks great. But it's a missed opportunity to not have this symbol on his chest:
https://clipart-library.com/img/808303.jpg

[–] guillem@aussie.zone 31 points 3 months ago (7 children)

Akshully that's a caduceus, symbol of commerce. It's often confused with the similar Asclepius' staff, without wings and sometimes with a cup.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 28 points 3 months ago

You're telling me the Greek symbol for profit is easily confused with the symbol for medicine?

Wow, the Greeks really were advanced!

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[–] django@discuss.tchncs.de 47 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Are there any more images? This one looks pretty good, but the title promised me multiple images.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 53 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If you download this image, then that's 2 images.

[–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 42 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The copyright industry believes in this one weird trick

[–] lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com 44 points 3 months ago (6 children)

Holy cow, how long will this go on?

For me as a European, it feels like I'm observing some kind of weird tribe that just sacrificed one of their people to the gods and celebrating it for weeks....

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 66 points 3 months ago (6 children)

That's really fucked up take on this. First, Luigi is innocent until proven guilty. Accordingly, he's very much alive and not "sacrificed". Also, you seem to mistake a wave of support (I am afraid our filter bubble suggests there is more support than there is in the average DS citizen) for celebrations. Also, by trying to ridicule the movement, you do propaganda for the establishment. So please get lost, troll.

[–] lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com 27 points 3 months ago (4 children)

he's very much alive and not "sacrificed"

The CEO is the one that got sacrificed to the gods with the hope that the system changes...

I'm totally on your side when it's about fixing your broken and also very expensive healthcare system... But I dunno... Maybe electing a president that supports your interests (instead of one that does the opposite) or going on the streets with Millions of others or a nation wide strike would actually change it...

And what exactly is the movement? Getting rid of more CEOs? I don't see any movement here. Maybe, I'm biased... I'd love to see a movement that actually leads to change, but I don't see it.

Well, I guess, I have to deal with a few more weaks of memes about this...

Best regards The troll

[–] orrk@lemmy.world 24 points 3 months ago (1 children)

didn't we try the whole elect a president that would bring the change, like twice now?

In fact, looking towards history, the only time we really had change for the better is when the working poor threatened the super rich

[–] lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (6 children)

didn't we try the whole elect a president that would bring the change, like twice now?

yeah... some of you tried it.

But an actual majority voting for the Orange one instead of progress after progress after progress can also be interpreted like a part of your population wants a much worse healthcare system and/or is very stupid.

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[–] DragonsInARoom@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago

Unfortunately when you exploit the people of a place for too long they get backed into a corner and lash out.

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[–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 36 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Unhinged and I am so here for it. Peace be with you.

[–] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 months ago

We are all cringe on this blessed day.

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 31 points 3 months ago (7 children)

People are unironicaly going to use him in religion in the future.

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 29 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If he is a catholic then I pray that he becomes a legit saint for what he did.

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[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Why not? Sainthood is an inherently political process. No person becomes a saint without intense lobbying and political pressure. You think Joan of Arc got her sainthood without politics involved?

And while the Catholic Church likes to claim a monopoly on sainthood, it really has no right to that claim. Most early saints were simply individuals that people in a community loved, respected, and later revered. A lot of these early saints were simply canonized officially by the church after they had already been venerated as saints by their communities for generations. There's one saint that is likely just a misremembering of the Buddha. So people could absolutely start venerating him as a saint unofficially whenever they want.

And in the long term, Luigi could even end up an official saint of the Church if the circumstances are right. After conviction and sentencing, he could meet with a priest and confess his crimes in full and formally ask for absolution. And in the doctrine of the Church, that would result in him being fully forgiven for his crime. It's the same way the Church recognizes the sanctity of warrior-saints who spent their whole lives killing. As long as they confessed their sins and asked for forgiveness from God, all is forgiven.

So let's imagine Luigi did that. Suddenly his sins are washed away. Now we just have a man who is effectively a martyr for the thousands of victims of Brian Thompson. If that doesn't a saint make, what does? Sainthood is meant for people who give their lives in the service of others, and that's exactly what Luigi ultimately did. If it weren't for the whole murder part, everyone would consider him a hero. And in the eyes of the church, confession washes away the sin of killing. Now he's an absolved martyr dying for the service others.

Now, for official recognition from the Church, there would need to be some miracles attributed to him after his (likely) execution. But that doesn't seem that hard to get. Tens of thousands of cancer patients praying for the ascended Luigi's intercession? Some of them are going to make a statistically unlikely complete recovery. Won't be hard to get the requisite number of miracles.

I don't imagine the Church would officially recognize Luigi's canonization within our lifetimes. But the Church thinks in centuries. If he decided to make a religious turn and really lean into Catholicism, he absolutely could end up saint, maybe in the 2100s sometime.

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 17 points 3 months ago (3 children)

If he dies and confesses as you put it, and the situation gets bad enough he could be canonized a lot sooner. Saint Maximillian was beatified barely 30 years after his death and canonized 41 years after his death.

Saint Maximillian Kolbe was a Saint who died in the holocaust during ww2. His story is fucking incredible. The Nazis were gathering people and had a set number of people to take to the death camps... one guy was terrified and begged for mercy, and then Saint Max came in to step in his place. Since the SS officer involved was only concerned with the number of people and not who, he accepted and left the guy alone and took Maximillian in his place.

You basically have someone who willingly sacrificed his life for an absolute stranger he never met before... and you know what is even better? The guy who Maximillian saved not only survived ww2, but also lived to be over 90 years old AND he pointed out at the war's end who was the officer who took all those people to their deaths. The officer was hanged for his crimes in 1946.

We need people who can make that kind of sacrifice. Luigi threw away a promising life to have a shot at the system. He isn't much of a leftist, but that is just a small detail.

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[–] ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 28 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's a halo, not the sun. Because he's a saint.

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[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 25 points 3 months ago

on a personal level this is hella cringe but from a social perspective i love this so much

[–] b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 3 months ago

Merry Christmas Luigi!!!

πŸŽ„ 🎁 πŸ™πŸ»

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